Monday, January 18, 2010

One Down, and many more to go!






Emma had great fun at her little Birthday Party, and she was plenty tired by the time it was over. It turned out that there were only 5 other children there (two too young to realize what was happening), but more adults. I've read that some 1 yr. olds have an attention span of two to five minutes (that's the lucky ones). This gives you an idea how much work it is to keep them happy and occupied.

Actually, Emma will often play in her room for an hour or so by herself at a time, on a normal day (so I'd say I'm the lucky one).
At 1 year, they think it's fun to push, throw, and knock everything down. They supposedly like to put things in containers and dump them out again. Well in our case, Emma dumps them out and I put them back in. She's shown no interest in the clean up part of the process.

She can really trash that room of her's in that hour (or much less time, if necessary) of play. . I often call her a one girl 'demolition' crew. Taking that into consideration, I decided not to try to figure out where it would lead (as far as her future 'calling'), this early in the game. I'll need a lot more time to observe (and clean - Ha!).

I'll tell you one thing, she's getting a very cute and funny personality -- as a matter of fact , I often call her 'Ms. Personality'. We make each other laugh every day, and I see her practicing making faces like the rest of us. It's so funny to watch. In the pictures I'm posting from her Saturday party, I didn't capture many of those funny faces of hers, because we were around so many people, and so many new things were happening,. She was in a very cautious mood -- that's typical at her age.

The little blond boy in the picture with her is only 4 days younger than she is, and surprisingly, he was close to the same size (but about 5 or 6 lbs. heavier than her). Everyone is always tells me how petite Emma is, so I guess he is too. :)

166 comments:

Chloe said...

I put some more of the pics I took at her party on photo bucket, if anyone wants to see them. Emma's Birthday

thornwil said...

Chloe,
Oh Chloe, those are the most darling pictures of Emma. She was even smiling in some. I just love this thread. Also, thank you for the pictures on photo bucket. She is such a picture perfect baby. I can't believe she actually plays in her room for an hour. That's great.
I sure hope I can be close to my grandchild. I sure wish they lived closer.

Tonyb39 said...

Hi Chloe,
Sweet pictures,she's beautiful! I was in a good mood,now i'm in a great one!

Tonyb39 said...

Love pictures of kids.It reminds me of Ashley(my niece,now 20)at that age.Oh boy,do i ever have the old fashioned photo albums..I call them feel good photo's..

Carol said...

Darling pictures Chloe. She is such a cutie. Now that orange frosting was a little scary.

Chloe said...

Hi Tony,
I read your post over at TM, saying you were in a good mood, and had just had post roast (your moms recipe!). I would love to see some of those pictures of your niece sometime Tony.

How old was she when she lived with you? She spent Christmas with you, didn't she?

Chloe said...

Mary, Thank you so much for all the nice things you said. Do you have the exact due date that your grand-baby will be born? I don't think you'll know if it's a girl or boy until around 4 months old, if I remember correctly.

Chloe said...

Yeah, Orange is her favorite color Carol. The cupcakes were all different colors. She actually threw up that cupcake an hour or so later, when we were eating lunch. All over me, by the way.

Chloe said...

That was one of the security guards from the mall that was in one of those pictures, by the way. We wanted to keep him in a good mood, since we were making a little extra ruckus.

Are you enjoying all of those new TV stations Carol?

Carol said...

I starting to remember why I didn't really miss having all these channels. It takes forever just to find out what's on and then there is really nothing I want to watch. If any of you ever find something interesting on, let me know. I don't want to spend all my time flipping channels.

jan said...

Chloe, Emma is a beautiful little girl. Now that she has passed her one year b'day she is a toddler. You can see her personality coming out even in the pictures. Emma looks like a flirt too. Better enjoy things now. When she gets to be about 13-14 you are going to have to watch out for the boys.I love the last one with their little bums. What gorgeous blue eyes she has.

jan said...

Carol, I feel the same way about all the channels. I watch Idol and Modern Family. I am tired of the medical shows - same old, same old. Not really that interesting any more. The Good Wife is sort of interesting. I would like to hear what others are watching these days too.

Carol said...

I've settled on Joy Behar Show right now while I ironed some clothes. Susie Orman was on. I'm ambivilent about Joy. Sometimes I like her and sometimes she irritates the hell out of me.

I didn't realize that Susie started as a waitress. From waitress to financial guru. Now that's a jump.

jan said...

Chloe, I just now found the photo bucket. Is that Emma's mother? If so, you can see where Emma gets those amazing blue eyes. Carol is right, that orange frosting is something else. I LOL when you said she threw up the cupcake. Not too funny to you I am sure. I love it that little kids just throw it right up. Great little GI tracts.

I remember years ago one of my grandsons had a b'day cake that had icing that was royal blue - the next morning, his poop was royal blue.
I loved the photo bucket.

don1one said...

those eyes are dazzling, on both of them. The boys won't have a chance.

NCIS and Bones. Daily Show. History Channel and Discovery.

jan said...

My dad loved Susie Orman. He watched her show faithfully. He loved his money more than any of us. If he could have figured out a way to take it with him, he would have. I like Joy Behar. Have seen her mostly on "the View" I like they way she says whatever she thinks. Reminds me a little of someone else I used to know :)) I guess I still know her - after all these years.

Solar said...

Chloe,

It's like I said: Emma is a real beauty. I love all the pics of her. You can tell what she is thinking in them..and Jan is right...she is going to be a heart breaker...I went and took a look at all of the other pic's on the photo bucket.......very nice.!!!

Carol, Jan,

If you have dish network; look for the tv guide and study that instead of surfing....I haven't watched regular tv for years now; and don't plan to. There is too much on dish to pass up.

For instance, I used to look at the channels 9400 thru 9420 there are some University channels that are great, and there is one called Link...it is a great way to get to know people from diff, parts of the world...on weekends they have world music..during the day they have news...not pundits, and spinners of news. some of the other ones that I mentioned above at different times are great science information stations...they won't disappoint U if U have those...

jan said...

Hi Don1one, How is Florida? Are you warm enough? Exactly where are you?

jan said...

Hi Solar, Dish network sounds interesting. I will have to check that out.

don1one said...

65 today, warming to 70s by Thur. A little chilly for me. Had dinner with the oldest and third of my friends boys tonight. He has 8 year old identical twin boys, and they're a handful. Gasparilla on Sat.

I'm in the Tampa area.

Solar said...

Try these, and adjust for your area. Looks like they added some new ones....but the 9400 + are the ones that will take up a lot of interest...


http://tvlistings.aol.com/

http://www.television.aol.com/

Solar said...

A little chilly for U...wise guy??

don1one said...

I can get high 50s in NC. But by Wed it will be mid 70s. Lots of overcast though, I was hoping for 70s and sun. My mood is so much nicer.

So how are you doing Solar? Doing any inside jobs?

Tonyb39 said...

Hi everyone,Chloe,
Oh,you've got a good memory! I had Ashley much of her life.My sister very erratic and Ashley's father deceased since she was 3.Oh the pictures,i have so many but there all in old style photo albums..

Solar said...

Don,

I just finished a nice insulation job, and it all went very well, I had to stop it twice b/c of slow pay...that's one thing that will have a lot of contractors in trouble...they don't know how to handle the paper work (contracts) that are a very important part of doing inside work, and any other work.....At the time of signing contracts for the work to be done..I am very specific about payment delay's and how they will effect the project..and follow up with daily reports...a paper trail, is half the battle...

I turned one down last week, I couldn't get enough information about financing...most people that I know of, think that it is going to get worse before it gets better....will see.! thanks..

thornwil said...

Chloe,
My grandchild is due in July--I think the early part. When I asked them before-that was when they were still afraid to say anything because they were afraid something would happen. I tried to call my son earlier but didn't get him. I miss him so much.

Solar said...

Tony,

Glad that U R around...need to see more of u here, if u have the time...need you to clean this place up from time to time...lot diapers hanging around...I keep saying the wrong things sometimes...need a clean cut guy around...Don is not help...he just gets me to do all of the dirty work around here...while he laughs at me....

ps. looking good over at tm....

thornwil said...

Solar,
I'm glad you're around. You keep me in stitches. Whenever I need a good laugh, I come to this blog to see if you're here.

Solar said...

Maria, believe it or not..im kind of shy around people...that is until i get to know them....this type of communication is different tho...glad that your around also.....

thornwil said...

I hate to say this because I might get killed by everyone here but I kinda enjoyed the cold, cold weather except for my 3 little visitors. I caught 3 little mousies but it was so sad. I had to use those sticky traps and it just broke my heart. I apologized to them the whole time I was taking them outside.

thornwil said...

I think they were coming in around my dryer vent so I plugged around it with steel wool.

Solar said...

I kinda like the cool weather, unless im working outside...and it is. For me the perfect weather is around 65-70 cooler at night.

don1one said...

I figure you balance out my serious side solar.

I can hardly way to get settled in one place again and become part of a community. I think I spend way too much time alone, I've forgotten how to be sociable.

Solar said...

Don,

I don't think that it will take U long to make friends...just like U did here at the swamp. Hope that U get to meet someone that u can have long talks with.....

thornwil said...

I guess I liked the cold weather because we rarely get it here. I remember going to Chicago in June and had to wear a jacket, but it was perfect. I had so much more energy.

thornwil said...

Solar,
When is the really freezing weather over with? My son bought me an airline ticket to Chicago but I don't want to go until I don't have to worry about the plane sliding off the runway.

Solar said...

Mary, It is usually around the end of Feb, but it has, and is not bad now. Has been around 35-38 average for the past cpl of wks, but I know better....will take a peek at the 10 day forecast..but they are just guessing....glad that your problems are over...

Solar said...

Looks like we are going to get temps ranging from 31 to 41 degrees, with a lot of rain/snow mixed. It will be sorta messy, cos at night it does go down below freezing, and the roads will be icy...so ..??

don1one said...

oh boy! 41!

um if you want that beer Solar you're going to have to come down here. ;^)

thornwil said...

Thanks, I'm going to have to start thinking about scheduling my trip.

thornwil said...

Nite all, gotta work tomorrow and 4am will be here soon.

jan said...

60's & 70's sounds great.

Mary, I like some cold weather too. I like having 4 seasons. It does not get horribly cold here and the sun shines about 364/365 days a year, at least for a bit each day. I have never not been able to walk outside during the day.
I hear you about missing your son. When I lived in the Dallas/Arlington area for 3 years was the only time I have not lived close to at least one son and I won't do that again. I don't see them every week even - but I know they are here.

jan said...

We are getting a little rain tonight. Supposed to be snowing in our northern mountains tonight and tomorrow.

jan said...

Don, I just looked at a map of Florida - now know where Tampa located. I have not been south of Panama city on the Gulf side nor south of Jacksonville on the Atlantic side. Looks like a great place to be.

jan said...

Solar, stay warm.
Nite all.

thornwil said...

Jan,
I like 3 seasons. Spring, Fall, and Winter. I would like summer if it just didn't get as hot as it does. My body just doesn't tolerate that much heat anymore.

Chloe,
My DIL is going to have an U/S at 21 wks. and hopefully they will be able to tell the sex of the baby at that time. The last U/S was a couple of weeks ago but they couldn't tell anything then. I've already started collecting things but in neutral colors.

Carol said...

Elizabeth Warren has tried hard to save the middle class but she's not getting any help. We should watch our politicians and see who really cares about us and dump the rest of them. Dump the rest of them.

Will The Banks Win Again? Bailout Watchdog Rallies Support For Consumer Protection Agency

Carol said...

And I can't believe that the Dems couldn't find a better option for replacing Ted Kennedy. What is really needed is that every state adds the option for voters to write in another choice. We need that option.

Coreen said...

Chloe,

Emma is adorable & again those beautiful blue eyes are a winner...

Solar said...

The Associated Press January 1
Saudi billionaire eyes new links with News Corp.


A Saudi billionaire whose investment firm is one of the biggest stakeholders in Citigroup and News Corp. says he is looking to expand alliances with the media giant.

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, who was listed last year by Forbes as the world's 22nd richest person, met with News Corp.'s chief executive Rupert Murdoch on Jan. 14.

A statement issued Saturday by Alwaleed's Kingdom Holding Co. says the meeting "touched upon future potential alliances with News Corp."

Kingdom Holding said Alwaleed is the second largest stakeholder in News Corp. with a 5.7 percent stake in the media company.

Media reports have discussed the possibility that News Corp. would buy a stake in Alwaleed's Rotana Media Services, but neither company has yet to comment.

BW Extras

Don't know why, but things like this makes me very uncomfortable. The Sudi's , the Bushes, The citigroup's , the control of the "NEWS".......

Solar said...

Chloe,

I finally picked my favorite pic of Emma. The third one, where she is enjoying the whole thing.

Ivy Green said...

Hi guys! Just wanted to let you know I haven't forgotten you. Pictures of Emma are so cute. Thanks for sharing them, Chloe.

My regular computer has the swine flu again. This may be my tipping point to ditch it and get a new one. Any computer older than five years cannot stand up to today's cyber-risks. Like my dog and her compromised immune system. That's how it seems to my untrained eye.

Sorry not to be here more, but gotta run again.

Solar said...

Ivy,

If U can back anything that U want do it. I would erase the whole system, and reinstall xp,or whatever you have....i have done it and saved a bunch.....

Solar said...

Coreen,

In China, Google Fallout Damages Yahoo!
The struggling portal is quarreling with Chinese partner Alibaba, which disapproves of Yahoo statements supporting Google's complaints about cens

http://www.businessweek.com/

Solar said...

In Mercer Consultings annual Quality of Living Survey, Europe once again dominates the list of 215 countries around the world. The top three cities are, by rank, Vienna, Zurich (last years winner), and Geneva. Commonwealth nations fare pretty well, too, winning 9 of the top 30 spots—even though London comes in only at 38. The U.S. also fares poorly, barely making it into the top 30 with Honolulu and San Francisco in the bottom two places. The top city in Asia is Singapore, at no. 26. No cities from Africa or South America are in the top 30. The bottom? Baghdad once again comes in at 215.

To find out which 30 global cities offer the best quality of life, read on.

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/09/04/0428_best_places_to_live/index.htm

Chloe said...

Solar,
That link to the best places to live is a good one, and those pictures of the different cities were amazing. I noticed almost all of them were in other countries.

I did see that San Francisco was among them though. The problem is that it's so expensive to live there. I guess they didn't take cost into consideration. I bet it's expensive to live in all the places they chose.

Chloe said...

Ivy, Sorry to hear you're having computer problems again. We miss you!

Chloe said...

Mary, I noticed your grand-baby will be born about a month after Jan retires (if I'm remembering correctly). You both are in for a very special summer. I just love spring and summer. Can't wait.

Chloe said...

I'm still catching up, but Solar, thanks for those TV listings sites. I'm making a note of them.

Chloe said...

Jan, Glad to see you've been around a little more. Does that mean you've almost finished the baby blankets?

That story you told about your grand-sons royal blue birthday cake was so funny. I guess you've been doing this grand-parenting thing for a long time now.

Chloe said...

"I like they way she says whatever she thinks. Reminds me a little of someone else I used to know :))"

Jan, Are you talking about our Carol?

Carol, I'm worried we won't be hearing as much from you now that you've got your TV back. You think?

Chloe said...

"Don't know why, but things like this makes me very uncomfortable. The Sudi's , the Bushes, The citigroup's , the control of the "NEWS".......

This one was another one that you were right on Solar. It's getting worse all the time. Big money just buys whatever influence they need. We don't stand a chance.

don1one said...

i don't understand the San Francisco thing. I used to live in the East Bay, and while I like the city there are places I'd prefer more.

I wonder what they used to rank them.

Carol, I don't remember you telling me which foods are your favorites. I'd think you'd have great list with where you're living.

I'll let you keep the cold weather. I grew up in Colorado, but the air is so thin and dry you don't really feel the cold.

Ivy, it sounds like you don't have the right software to keep the viruses out. Your computer might run slower, but there shouldn't be any reason it can't stop problems if you have the right combination.

Great interview today. I really hope I get this one. It's out in the country but only minutes from the Gulf. Very relaxed, great group of guys and a couple of gray hairs. No more 25 year old project leads that is sure he knows everything there is to know about programming.

If I was asked to design my own job this would be it.

Ivy Green said...

My 'puter-fixer-upper guy put AVG 9.0 and Malware Bytes on my machine, but those were powerless over the malware/adware that popped up out of nowhere.

I saw where the mysterious annual visitor to the grave of Edgar Allan Poe was a no-show for the first time in 60 years. Very distressing to some folks who had travelled from afar to witness the annual ritual. Quoth the Raven, Nevermore.

Gotta run again...

don1one said...

Is that the free version Ivy? i usually use the paid version and windows defender together. I've never had a virus and my computer is 4 1/2 years old (my laptop, anyway).

the paid version is a lot more pro-active against attacks. Which may sound like a lot of money, but it's cheaper than your computer guy.

Carol said...

I just finished my exercises. I didn't want to but the mean Carol made me. The mean Carol also made Maggie take a walk outside with me. She didn't want to either. It's in the 60s outside but a dreary day.

I was feeling particularly lazy today after a long day of post three day weekend work. I don't know what Maggie's excuse is. Since we knew we would have to check in with Solar, we got our asses moving. Do I feel better? Not yet but we don't feel quilty either and exercising is better than coming home and stuffing my face.

Chloe, having the satelitte out here will not decrease my time here. It may only make me change what I feel like whinning about. I'm already more pissed off with all the stupidity in the world.

For one, I'm pissed that they can't get things together for Haiti. They blamed Bush for his effing up in Katrina but there are many countries now involved in this cluster f&#* in Haiti. Bunch of indians running around and no chief. Maybe they should get that Honore in there to kick some ass.

I haven't given my donation yet and will wait until I see someone making some good progress. I certainly don't want to give money for food that will sit in the airport while people starve and thirst to death.

Carol said...

Don, the best of luck with that job you are looking at.

Favorite foods. I love salads but I'm particular about my salads. Must have dark green and red leaf lettuce, spinach, little grape tomatoes, few capers, few cut up green olives, few salad peppers, some feta cheese and my EVOO and red vinagar dsg made with that garlic herb Good Season's package mix. If I have alvocado, I put some of that.

I like bussels, broccoli, cauliflower, turnip greens, spinach, squash and other similar veggies. I don't eat much fruit. I drink that V8 fusion and it has a combination of fruit and veggies full of antioxidants. In season, I like watermellon and cantaloupe.

I eat that salmon I mentioned at least three times a week and maybe some spicy baked lemon chicken or no meat for supper. Not very often I will make spagetti sauce or chili.

As far a fried food, the last time I cooked some fried food was when I fried up some of those crappy I caught. I like them covered with a spicy corn meal and fried up real crispy. Then drizzled with lemon. I consume a lot of lemons.

Carol said...

Chloe, I think it was me who Jan was talking about. I do have a reputation for being opinionated and making my opinion known. And often it is not that compatable with those in my community. Hasn't always made me real popular here.

I have learned, in my older years, that there are times when it's better to keep it to myself because it will not change anything just cause me grief. Unfortunately that didn't stop me when I was younger. I loved pissing people off.

Coreen said...

For those who may be attached to carrying those plastic bottles of water everywhere, saw this while catching up on my newspapers...

a cautionary tale that has not received much
attention at all...

the FDA revisiting the effect of a chemical bpa used in plastics that are made into some bottles (usually with #7 on the bottom for recycling), children's sippy cups....
don't know about most water bottles, but I
do know that I detect a chemical tinge whenever
I have tried to drink water from a plastic bottle...needless to say, I rarely drink water
from a plastic bottle....

risks from plastics in food packaging

don1one said...

yeah, thought i'd accidentally hit the TM button there for a second Carol. :^)

Your diet doesn't sound that different than the foods I mentioned. i love salads with olives and feta.

don1one said...

And adult toys Coreen. Anywhere they use soft plastic. :^)

Heating food in saran wrap or tupperware also dangerous

Chloe said...

" I loved pissing people off."

I'm outspoken too Carol, but I've never loved pissing them off. I have just always felt that it's important to be honest, and speak up for what I believe in. Pissed off people are just a inevitable side affect, unfortunately. Later on, I usually regret that I opened my mouth in the first place. Around and around I go.

As far as getting less outspoken about things as I get older, well... I'd have to say I'm more open minded (usually :).

ps.. Love that joke: 'Everybody's entitled to my opinion. Ha.

Chloe said...

Don, as Carol said, wishing you luck with that job. Sounds like a dream come true.

.. when will they decide.

Coreen said...

Carol,

As to your comments this a.m. about Elizabeth
Warren & the proposal for a Consumer Protection
Agency, have been watching that for awhile, &
consider it on the same level as the promises
that were made by the Pres. during his campaign & later, that there would be action
to allow bankruptcy judges to modify mortgages in an effort to assist in the
ongoing foreclosure crisis....to date, no,none, zero, support/leverage/assistance was provided by the President & the provision was
eliminated from legislation when it was proposed.

Is the same fate in store for the CPA....to be continued....

Coreen said...

Don,

I don't even like using a microwave...

and will have to defer to your 'adult toys'
expertise.....(don't know who to make a funny
face)....

In the meantime, will be rooting for you to
get your dream job....

Solar said...

Chloe,

The thing about being honest, is that it is alway's going to piss some people off, I try to aim it at bullies, or know it all, and people that just can't seem to see the other side, once in a while.

Don, I sure hope that you get that gig...pulling for you compadre.

Coreen, ditto on the bankruptcy Judges....this is one broken promise that is going to get a lot of thought when the time comes...

About the botteled water...I just don't get it. I see many families at costco that buy cases and cases of it. All they have to do is to buy a water filter. They have shown where the bottled water is just tap water...this is why we have an uneducated people, when they go into the voting soothes, very easy to sell them on the wrong things....

Carol,

Keep up the good work, and don't try to do a lot right away. I like all of that salad stuff, cept the cheese...don't need it, and the packaged spices...salt?

Ivy, Did anyone see Ivy just poke her head in here and said that she had to run again.....there is something for all of that running now....or just put a laptop in the John.....

Solar said...

Don,

"Adult toy's" U get away with murder around the pinks...if that was me.......

Coreen said...

Solar,

but those bottle babies all swear the 'water'
tastes so much better than tap...which may be
so in some areas, but probably not in yours or
mine....

thought of you when I was reading Charlie Gasparino's take on Wall Street....He is a cnbc person, wall street insider & not a fan of democrats, but he does tell it like it is....

What Wall Street Really Fears

Solar said...

Coreen, thanks I will read that.

Re: tap water, hbo had a special the the comedian's Penn & Teller did about tap water..they showed a fancy rest. where they had seveeral diff btls of wtr from diff parts of the world, with fancy labels. The highest one was about 80 bucks, the lowest about 20. They showed were one table order one of each that was on the menu...the one that had the twenty dollar one, had a taste of the 80 dollar one, and said that he should have ordered it instead....meanwhile they showed that in the back yard they were filling the water bottles from the garden hose...and later showed the pictures of it, to the customers.......what a scam no?

Chloe said...

" I try to aim it at bullies, or know it all, and people that just can't seem to see the other side"

The only thing Solar, is that those people will never listen to you. We're wasting our breath on them.

I also agree with what you said about pissing 'some' people off, no matter what we say. Whether we're honest or not.

Chloe said...

I think that most people are just trying to get away from the chlorine.

Coreen said...

I think just about all 'tap' water has a chemical tinge from the chemicals used to
'purify' it...but I'm not a big water drinker
to begin with.....

Anyone here big water drinkers.....

Solar said...

Coreen, good article by Charlie G.

I would add to that-that the public is starting to get educated about what really went on, and know outright greed when they see it. Yes they aren't afraid of the past...they are protected, but the future is another thing. Good article..will have one for you tomorrow, a little long and detailed, but Im going to read it until I get it all in relation to our politicians...

Carol said...

Arriana Huffington writes:

"On the eve of the first anniversary of President Obama's inauguration, it's become painfully obvious that elected officials are not going to save us. The 2008 election was all about "Hope." But Hope is simply not cutting it.

What we need is Hope 2.0: the realization that our system is too broken to be fixed by politicians, however well intentioned -- that change is going to have to come from outside Washington."

Now I don't think she explains how to do that. I still insist on a grass roots plan but someone needs to organize it. The candidates can't have any connection to big business or Wallstreet. No money from lobbiests and be someone like Elizabeth Warren. Too idealistic?

I drink distilled water. My thoughts are that they have to take everything out of it since it is used in things that can't have anything in it. I'll get my minerals from other places. I do think that that stuff they call Spring water often come from aquifers in places like Houston. Yuk.

I checked my bottle and they have the number 2 on them. Is that a bad number?

Solar said...

There is nothing that you can drink or eat, that doesn't have any chemicals....they are inventing foods, from pure chemicals. The only way to not eat so much of them, is organically grow your own; or from somewhere where you know the farmers.

I shouldn't have mentioned farmers...another pet peeve, corp. farms...

Carol said...

Most of my opinions are often on the opposite end of the spectrum from those of many of the people I'm surrounded by. I guess I don't really enjoy pissing people off but I often do and I've had to learn to live with that. Like I said, I have let go of some of my passion because it was hard on my heart.

What was kind of interesting is that I did seem to win over several people with my passion for Hilliary during the primaries. Not enough though. Some who had been influenced by the years of negative Repub talking points about her, did come around to my way of thinking after being bombared by my cheerleading for her. Or maybe they just pretended to so I would shut up.

Solar said...

Carol,

Google the "Natural Law party" they had grass roots, and elected people in all parts of government...they could not do any good against the huge amount of $ that is needed in order to sustain a grass roots party..the day's are over when you hear...you can even grow up to be president if you want to...never was true, but......

Carol said...

Buy as much as possible from your local organic farmers. I try to buy organic when I can find it. Some things I don't want to eat unless I can find organic. Too many chemicals, strawberries, grapes and cherries. Those are also fruits I like if I can find organic.

Solar said...

If they had organic Pinks, I would buy a bunch of them...even keep some in the freezer.....

Carol said...

Solar, that's where the Internet could come in. Get people connected and harness all this anger. People are just going from one corrupt party back to the other, back and forth, looking for an honest person. Change must mean something besides going back and forth.

I don't see how we could ever expect for our needs to be protected when these politicians are getting most of their money from those who have different needs, to screw us. It ain't gonna happen.

Republican and Democrats need to realize that there is more that unites us than divides us and those crafty politicians keep playing up those less significant differences to control us all and to screw us all.

The Republicans played up the abortion issue so much but what did they really do, when they had a chance, to change that. I never believed that they ever really cared about it, it was just a red herring to keep their peeps under their control.

Carol said...

Well Solar, your out of luck here. Most of us pinks don't care for the cold, and especially not a freezer.

don1one said...

Some places the water is just about undrinkable it tastes so bad. Phoenix is like that. I really miss the tap water in Loveland, CO. Straight off the glaciers and absolutely delicious.

Thanks all.

Chloe said...

"Republican and Democrats need to realize that there is more that unites us than divides us"

.... that happening seems pretty hard to believe Carol. If you doubt it, all you have to do is look in at TM every so often.

The political parties are like teams. Teams that have become enemies. It's almost a sport.


Solar, what in the world did you mean by that?

Solar said...

Carol,

Thats true about the internet...and also about frozen pinks; will have to think about both of these...but thawing them out would have not been a problem...

Chloe said...

I agree Don. People wouldn't be buying bottled water if the tap water wasn't so chlorinated.

At our house it's not because we're on a well and it's very good water. But I'd never dream of drinking unfiltered tap water in town. Yuk. I hate the taste of chlorine.

I think some people buy all that bottled water to take the place of drinking too many sodas. I don't drink much water either, but I want to start drinking more.

Coreen said...

An example of the anger that is starting to
show among the liberal faction of the dem. party. Saw this over at Talking Points
Memo from its founder, Josh Marshall...the very early returns in MA are not looking good for Coakley...but only a smidge
of votes so far...

"Just Shut Up!
Message of the day to all Dems, Coakley, Rahm, Celinda Lake, national Dem committees, Axelrod, whoever, whatever: Shut the *$%& Up! I don't know how else to say it. I'm watching MSNBC and hearing all the key players dumping on each other. As I've said, the Coakley campaign seems to have been run just terribly. And that's just the beginning of it. But really, with all that's at stake, the White House political office left this to Coakley, unsupervised? Really? I just have very little patience hearing all the people who are by definition all to blame have an argument about who's most to blame.

What I'm seeing -- and this isn't just based on public comments but our reporting behind the scenes -- is that there's a lot more energy going into dodging blame for this unforced error of galactic proportions than there is going into the real issue: closing the loop on the health care bill. Which is the only issue in policy terms and political terms. That's it. Everything else is water under the bridge.

And the key is this: this nonsense arguing is very reminiscent of 6 months of chatter and wasted negotiations that prevented this from getting done in the early summer instead of letting it get to this point. Which was n-e-e-d-l-e-s-s.

--Josh Marshall"

Coreen said...

Meanwhile over at National Review, they are just giddy.....from Jim Gerraty, Campaign Spot...

"Obama Towns Are Flipping To Scott Brown. Early Night, Folks.

In 2008, Ashland, Massachusetts went for Obama over McCain, 5,039 votes to 3,181.

Tonight Brown won Ashland 54 percent to 45 percent - 3,467 for Brown while Coakley carried 2,897.

You can call it, folks."

Chloe said...

"I just have very little patience hearing all the people who are by definition all to blame have an argument about who's most to blame. "

Coreen, good posts!
It seems like 'blame' is becoming a way of life for the Democrats now. I say this, because they're the party in power. I just don't get it.

I just hate it when people have excuses for everything, instead of just taking responsibility, learning from their mistakes, and moving on.

Carol said...

What does this Brown have Coreen, beside a pretty good looking body 30 years ago?

It now seems like all our elections have become a protest against the current ruling party. We have to something to all stand for instead of just something to protest against.

Solar said...

Chlo,

I would have to see the post, but if you take the sports-team mentality that goes on; a win at all cost mentality; that is what I mean.

The owners of baseball, for instance have a lot of money that they pay in order to get the best players that they can...the players are beholding to the owners, and will do anything to win, anything at all.

The other side is the same way, they also do the exact same things...some times they die doing it, they sacrifice everything to be successful, but the most important thing to them, is to win at all cost. They the owners don't care about the fans, they care about the $ that the fans provide, and supply us with the entertainment...same with our two party system..they are just like the owners..the Dnc and Rnc are like the leagues National, and American. Meanwhile the fans, choose one or the other, The D's and the R's and stand by them no matter what they do....when they win, they are happy, and when they loose, they are planning on how to win, even if it hurts the voting public, the only thing that matters to the people that buy the tickets to watch, is winning, at all costs, they don't care about the people that doesn't have tickets...sorry for going on, and on...

Chloe said...

GOP's Brown takes slight lead in close Mass. race

"A loss — or even a narrow victory — by the once-favored Coakley for the seat that the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy held for nearly half a century in this Democratic stronghold could signal big political problems for the president's party this fall when House, Senate and gubernatorial candidates are on the ballot nationwide.

More immediately at stake was a critical 60th vote for Democrats to save their health care legislation and the rest of Obama's agenda. A 41st Republican in the 100-member Senate could allow the GOP to block the president's priorities with filibusters." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100120/ap_on_el_se/us_massachusetts_senate

don1one said...

Ain't going to happen. The US population is too soft and ignore most of what's happening.

Those that do pay attention are divided on silly idealogical points.

The laws are written to keep out third party candidates from debates and other public venues.

It's the end of the empire, and we're going into an unrecoverable death spiral.

I like fuji and lake arrowhead water. The lake arrowhead water comes from a spring that has been capped and a hydrant installed. I've seen them filling the trucks.

Coreen said...

Don't think the democrats in DC & to a large
extent many self-identified democrats, really
understand the anger, frustration out there
with those that actually are working & trying
to support their families & being asked to foot
the bill for the changes being pushed.

Oldsea at TM expresses much of the frustration
on 'main street', in contrast to those who
blindly follow the spin because this administration is the one they wanted.

Chloe said...

Exactly Solar, All that competition makes everyone lose sight of the goal. That's why this would be a much better country if there were no political parties, and just individual representing the best interest of their constituency.

Coreen said...

Carol, don't know what Brown has, but the little I saw/heard, he appears as a regular
guy, who apparently was well receieved by the MA voters, while Coakley came across as well an elite...who until very recently believed she
was a shoe-in....entitled.....

Chloe said...

"Don't think the democrats in DC & to a large
extent many self-identified democrats, really
understand the anger, frustration out there
with those that actually are working & trying
to support their families"

Not only do they not understand, they're not interested in understanding. They have a different agenda, and you have to be a member of the 'team' to know what it is.

Solar said...

Don, Exactly, and the same Coreen. The only thing that one can do, is scream about it..but there is no where to go....to the other side? If there were real informative outlets, and the people would wise up...they would not vote straight party ticket, they would get better government from electing some independents...but we all want to be on the winning side...so the show...is the only show...the D's against the R's....

Coreen said...

Guys, for all of our lives, there will continue
to be a two-party system, the likelihood of
a third party taking over is as strong as me
winning the lotto...and I don't buy tickets...get my drift.....

Though,Don, I am not quite so pessimistic, I
don't think that the 'empire' is doomed just
yet, just an ebb & flow until possibly someone
starts listening to the guy out their paying
the bills....(taxes that is).....

Chloe said...

"who until very recently believed she
was a shoe-in....entitled....."

Maybe she just thought she was the best person for the job, and thought everyone else would see that.

Solar said...

Coreen, Sea has just started to point out things again very recently..she did not for a long time...Patsi is so quiet on it that she is like being gone...tm once had several people from the middle they just got tired...and went away...I think that is why this place is what it is...I don't see a lot of one sided hateful passion...they both stink...

don1one said...

re-instate the draft so we're not paying mercenaries like the Romans and Brits, and I'll believe we have a chance. But if citizens aren't willing to put their life on the line for the country, it's not going to happen.

Coreen said...

Don't know Chloe, doesn't every candidate think
they are the best for the job...the issue
here was her manner of campaigning or lack thereof...she apparently has been somehwat aloof to the voters on the street...

The results are not in from Boston yet so there
is still the chance she pulls it out....

Coreen said...

Solar, too many monologues,to much one upsmanship, I know best, for my taste...

Chloe said...

"she apparently has been somehwat aloof to the voters on the street..."

Well then, that may cost her the job.

I think when you mentioned the feeling of entitlement, I couldn't help but think how people said that about Hillary. In some corner of my mind, I felt the need to defend.

Chloe said...

Are you talking about patriotism Don?

Solar said...

Chloe


"Maybe she just thought she was the best person for the job, and thought everyone else would see that."

Thats how Gore, and Kerry lost...and so did Dukakis ,and now Coakley. Three out of the 4 came from where? and Gore was just like them...elite thinking that we all had a brain...the dumb R's talked about things that the normal thinking person, could understand, and so did Clinton..when he won..never seen him act like he was an elite..even tho he was at times...

Coreen said...

Hillary was never aloof to the voters, while she was a senator she made it her business to
get out their with the voters of all parts of
NY.

The media tagged Hillary with being entitled....

And she certainly did not shy away from voters
during the primaries.

Chloe said...

".elite thinking that we all had a brain"

.. what about Obama Solar. Do you think he respects 'the people'? This is a sincere question, because I don't know where the guys coming from, aside from what you and I both know. That he owes way too many people. His soul has been bought and paid for.

Chloe said...

I agree Coreen. But they sure did make that tag stick. I heard it everywhere.

Solar said...

Don,

A big hell yes on the draft thought of yours. Thats another thing that the Dems got their butt kicked on. They let the R's take the lead, and convinced the public that an all volunteer military was the only way to go......

Chloe said...

"Thats another thing that the Dems got their butt kicked on"

... it really is just about who play the game best, who lies best. It's impossible to keep track of the truth anymore.

Chloe said...

Coreen, You could do a 'great' post on this election tomorrow, no matter how it comes out!

You seem to be so up to date about what's going on, and more familiar with the candidates.

Solar said...

Chloe
I believe that Obama does care, but not enough. He had it hard at times, and so did the people that he was around at times...but he also had it a lot easier than most, and advanced thru life with the help of those that needed him be a salesperson...yes he cares...but that is all behind him now...we are all just statistic to him now imo, he was put into his life...he never made it on his own....

jan said...

"If I was asked to design my own job this would be it."

Don, I sure hope this works for you.

Coreen said...

MA called for Brown...

jan said...

Chloe, How did you guess I was talking about our Carol.

Carol said...

Hillary had to overcome years and years of bad press from the Repubs. I heard the people down here, that didn't have a clue about Hillary repeat the Repub talking points about her. They were brainwashed for years. It is amazing that she did as well as she did up against that.

When the people I worked with would repeat one of those talking points I would ask them to explain what they meant by what they said. That shut them up real fast.

Chloe said...

"advanced thru life with the help of those that needed him be a salesperson"

He is a salesperson more than anything else, isn't he Solar. Thanks, and I agree with what you said. He made his deals, he was used, but he also used them, so now he is what he is. He could have been great, but now I don't think he ever can be. At anything.

Solar said...

Don,

U know; the similarities about Rome are not wasted on me.....the only thing is that we can adjust in real time, but we will end up sharing with China...i think???

jan said...

Chloe, I am doing hand quilting on the 2 baby quilts. I should have my head examined. I forgot how long it takes. I am trying to finish the boy's quilt before 2/1 as they are coming for a visit in Feb. Need to check on the date. I have never done any machine quilting - but am taking a lesson on 1/30.

Chloe said...

Ha Jan! That's what we love about her! She says what she thinks.

Coreen said...

Don, I too would have no problem if there was
a draft, but I have no children...and dems are no more likely to want that then repubs. No politician really wants his/her child in the line of fire, during war or whatever you want to call what is going on today...

Chloe said...

Jan, as you can tell, I know nothing about quilting, except that it is beautiful. That lesson you're taking on the 30th for machine quilting should make it a lot easier, right?

Chloe said...

"MA called for Brown..."

Wow. Can you believe it?

jan said...

"Unfortunately that didn't stop me when I was younger. I loved pissing people off."

Carol, LOL, I do remember those days. I have not been around you in these last 30 years so have not seen this new side to you. You and I got into some real strong disagreements too. You are the only friend that I could have a verbal disagreement with and still count on your friendship. I was always afraid of pissing friends off, but you were not. I always liked that about you.

Chloe said...

Carol, People believe what they want to believe. Whatever fits into what they want to believe, anyway. Many people just want to think like everyone else around them. They want to agree.

Carol said...

This election result should be a kick in the butt for all the Dem party bosses, not just Obama, even though it is a big kick in his butt also. Do you think it might have been a different story if Hillary was pres? I guess we could dream that it might have been. I wonder if she would have rolled over for health care??

Solar said...

Thanks Coreen, for posting the race...let the finger pointing start now.

Carol, I think that the Clintons made a lot of mistakes...but they alway's seemed to think about the small people. I think that is because he grew up poor. That is one of the reasons that the elite Republican crowd hated about him....he made them look in that mirror that I alway's talk about...and they saw themseleves...they did not like what they saw, and hated him for it.

Having said that..I would not want Hillary to run again..she is too much establishment for my last now also.....hey who is the Bush that will run for potus the next time around?? ok now will keep quiet...

don1one said...

I think both Bush and Obama cared when they started. Then the ran face first into a system that wouldn't let them do anything but what big business wanted them to.

Patriotism is one way to put it Chloe. We have dropped into an ennui stupor fed by reality shows and drugs.

We're 25th in the world in math, and dropping. We have over a 50% divorce rate and kids are growing up in front of tv's and video games. The average toddle sees 7 hours of tv a day, national pediatricians recommend no tv for children under 2.

we're losing our social skills because we no longer play games with each other, we live online where there are no difficulties and learning negotiation.

We live anonymously in cities and aren't held responsible for our actions.

Our politicians are making deals with businesses so they can get out and make a killing as lobbyists.

It won't happen overnight because we have a lot inertia, but all the signs are there.

Chloe said...

"I wonder if she would have rolled over for health care??"

NO!!

Coreen said...

And to keep current...Harold Ford has taken a 30 day leave of absence from his Merrill job
to concentrate on the NY senate run.

Coreen said...

I'm not sure that Hillary would have pushed
for health care at this time, when the entire
economy crashed as a result of the financial
crisis, she may have focused on what is always
first and foremost.

Where's Carville? It is always the economy...

Solar said...

Last thing...I think that there would be a lot less wars, if we had the draft..and the children of our elected officials were on them, just like any other smuck...just saying...

Patriotism for defense of country is one thing, going to war on false accusations and for $ is another thing...

Chloe said...

".hey who is the Bush that will run for potus the next time around?"

Oh no, I don't even want to think about that Solar!

... and don't you dare keep quiet, we need you. :)

Carol said...

I never really saw Obama as real. He was always too dependent on his teleprompter.

jan said...

Chloe, machine quilting is much faster than doing it by hand.

Ivy, I am going to have to buy my own computer in the next few months. I want a laptop. John bought an apple after years of having the other brand. He now likes it but had buyers remorse for a few months as there was a big learning curve. I am torn as to what I want. I am leaning toward an apple but know I will have to get some operating instructions.

Solar said...

"I'm not sure that Hillary would have pushed
for health care at this time, when the entire
economy crashed as a result of the financial
crisis, she may have focused on what is always
first and foremost.

Where's Carville? It is always the econom"

100% agree with this...she would not have pushed anything to weaken the system anymore than it has been..and she would not be spending so much on increasing the areas of war...

Carol said...

Maybe Hillary should have stayed in the Senate. I think that book Game Changed mentioned that she didn't really want to SOS job but allowed Obama to talk her into it. Maybe things would have been different if she was still in the Senate. They needed some good leaders there.

Solar said...

Don,

We are doing the same thing that the Romans did arn't we....we have over 800 military bases, and the cost to maintain them are killing us no?

jan said...

I have purposely stayed out of the political discussion, but I have very strong opinions about the draft and that is a resounding "NO draft" I would not want to go back to those days. I lived through through the time of the draft and few people with children would vote on having the draft again.

Solar said...

Ok, this is the last one. Carol, I am but a fool, darling......that song just got into me cabeza all of a sudden.

Unless we get (the first thing) campaign finance reform..we will never have a grass roots organization to match the big $ corps.....

Coreen said...

A song! A song!

Oh Carol Neil Sedaka

Chloe said...

"How would a Brown win affect Obama's larger agenda?
It could signal a nationwide political mood change, sending “a chilling message to all Democratic candidates on the ballot in November," says S.A. Miller in The Washington Times, and further jeopardizing the Democrats' majority in Congress. Even Obama seems to agree: "Understand what's at stake here, Massachusetts," the president said at a last-minute campaign rally for Martha Coakley in Boston on Sunday. This is about “whether we're going forwards or backwards." http://www.theweek.com/article/index/105204/Why_Massachusetts_matters

Carol said...

I agree Solar.

don1one said...

No, we're doing something different from the Romans Solar. We have all of those bases overseas but we don't demand tribute from the locals. We just give them our money and our protection.

Carol said...

I've never heard that song.

Coreen said...

Carol, if its before 1980, and it is rock & roll, not country, good chance I will remember it....

Chloe said...

I used to love that song Carol. It was soooo long ago.

Solar said...

Don, We are kinda supporting the whole world; almost no? kinda?

Carol said...

Happy Anniversary President Obama.

don1one said...

Kinda? We're giving away money and industrial secrets all over the world.

Carol said...

And ya'll know who was one of the biggest advocates for campaign finance reform....McCain. He also mentioned in his campaign that committee leaders shouldn't have conflicts of interest. I did really respect some of his ideas.

Coreen said...

Solar,

Does this sound familiar to you....some things never change....

companies
race to take advantage of iraqi oil bonanza

Solar said...

Coreen,

Yes it does. Wonder what all the fuss was all about in the first place....oh yeah, there was a guy named Sadam in the way. Now he's not.

Iran's next. we are just making a show of things in the pak areas...and anywhere else..will read that tomorrow thanks...

I was laughing my butt off yesterday. They showed my favorite 2 and 1/2 men, I don't watch much regular tv..just the reruns of a cpl of comedy's..they had on the two part episode when the mother got married to Robert wagner...I could not stop laughing out loud...did u see that those?

Coreen said...

I'm back for a minute, checked tm, the anger
continues....

Yes, Solar I have seen those when they found him dead in the bed.....good way to end the
night with a smile.....

Still love Robert Wagner, so smooth...& now he's the father of Tony Dinuzzo on NCIS...Don did you catch that episode...& I love Mark Harmon too....

So good night everyone....

don1one said...

yeah, basketball takes over Tuesday night in NC but we found an alternate channel with it.

I think Robert overplayed it a bit, but they're a great match.