Thursday, December 10, 2009

To be continued when someone has a better idea.

A place to comment until a new idea is born.

21 comments:

Carol said...

Nite all, I have date with history.

Ivy Green said...

Just because there's a new thread up doesn't mean there's not some good stuff posted at the end of the old one...

Ivy Green said...

Carol,
You will have to circle back and read Gabaldon's "Outlander" since you're enjoying its sequel...I saw on line there is a movie series called Outlander, but it is not the same. I'm not sure how they would get away with using the same title. I would have thought it would be copyrighted or trademarked.

6p01127900efbf28a4 said...

Funny thing about that Dam Store. My mother wrote a report about visiting the store in grade school.

Except she didn't spell it quite right. My poor grandmother.

I love the cherry cider.

Ivy Green said...

I just picked a fight with Hubs because I had to go to extra expense and trouble to buy the Alash CD at Amazon. He rushed us out right after the performance. The CD was laying right in front of me at the merch table. But the line was long and they had it co-mingled with the autograph-seeking line...many people in line had brought their own souvenir items so they were not even purchasing anything new...very poor logistics which is the kind of hare-brained scheme that gets my graduate-degree in business up in arms...I guarantee you they lost sales because they didn't have it organized right.

Ivy Green said...

Don,
I enjoy going down into the basement at the Dam Store. Besides the leaky old plumbing, they have artifact photos of the old place...before the flood. Were you around for that? C-Bob has stories of it, but I think it makes him too sad to remember.

Ivy Green said...

Well, I guess we got it covered for the night.

Speaking of basements, I am corresponding from the Man Cave tonight because my laptop is at the shop again. It is five years old and falling apart...I think the screen may detach from the keyboard soon...but I hate to give it up. I resist learning new technology until the last possible moment...you have to pry the old stuff from my cold dead hands, to quote "Moses"...did I ever tell I met him once in Foley's basement...? Well, not "met" exactly...more like staked him out... lol

Ivy Green said...

I guess I had a thing going with leaks and basements tonight...

..."nite y'all

6p01127900efbf28a4 said...

Missed the flood by about 20 minutes Ivy. Took off early from work that night and drove up the South St. Vrain to Estes, but they had just shut Estes down.

Yes, very sad. The walls are so vertical no one had a chance.

Carol said...

I was just looking up the dam break you were talking about. I assume it was the Lawn Lake Dam? What I found was that only 3 died, is that correct?

What is interesting is that when some of these disasters occur, there seems like the loss of life is minimal compared with what it could have been. Even the San Francisco earthquake only killed 57. Don't you think it is strange?

On the other hand, there was hurricane Katrina where 1,836 people were killed. 705 are still missing and I bet they are also dead.

That disaster was horrible. I remember being glued to the TV watching that disaster unfold. News people got in without too much difficulty and our government couldn't. That still floors me.

We had our Rita just a month later and it didn't help my anticipation, sitting stuck in our concrete and steel jail waiting. Rita was a stronger hurricane and I didn't know what to expect. I even brought my 4 man inflatable rubber raft that I bought from WM on sale at the end of the previous summer. It was out in my truck.

The sounds I heard outside during that hurricane made me wonder if anything would still be standing. It amazed me that there was.

With my two rickety pieces of real estate and all the tall trees, I only had about $25,000 worth of damage. I think that is because "Mary" was watching over things. She was sitting on my fireplace mantel and when I closed up the house to leave, I asked her to keep a watch over our places.

Carol said...

I coulda have a nicer house but I chose to put all my savings away so there would be something to help Mary and me get through our old age. Well you know how that turned out. Drats, I shoulda asked the other "Mary" to watch over that mutual fund.

Carol said...

Why do you really think that our federal government couldn't get in to rescue those people earlier? Did it have anything to do with the fact that we had a Democratic govenor and a Democratic mayor in charge? I'm not saying that it was their fault either. I really do think that politics was involved.

Carol said...

I do realize that the governor and mayor do deserve some of the blame but when you are sitting in the middle of a hell hole, it's hard to think rationally.

Chloe said...

Because the government is so inefficient Carol. You know that.

That story you told about the hurricanes was riveting - you still recall a story better than anyone else.

Count you blessings, and forget about that lost money. Your life and home are irreplaceable (well, at least your life is). Money, that comes and goes.

Carol said...

And to the credit of our great food down here, old Brownie couldn't drag himself away from a good meal to tend to any little disaster that was unfolding.

Carol said...

Morning Chloe. I'm sitting here farting around when I should be outta here, on my way to work.

Chloe said...

Happy Friday Carol. A few more days of rain and cold, then we'll be getting up in the 70's (for one day).

Have a good day.

6p01127900efbf28a4 said...

Hi Carol,
No, it was the Big Thompson flood of 1976. A series of dams gave way above Estes, each one adding to the rush of water. A wall of water powered through a narrow canyon with vertical walls. Hikers and campers had no where to go, they couldn't climb the walls to get out of the way. 145 died in that one, a big number for a small area like that. It also destroyed a lot of property.

From Wikipedia:" destroying 400 cars, 418 houses and 52 businesses and washing out most of U.S. Route 34." They had to rebuild the road all of the way through the canyon.

I think any disaster is horrible when it happens close to you and affects people you know.

The Northridge quake killed relatively few, but I helped people abandon their homes and we were affected for months, if not years.

I think Katrina was a series of disasters all lined up. From the Corp of Engineers doing sloppy work to buses idling in a flood area.

I used to work in an Air Force disaster response office. When I've seen disasters happen no matter how much planning has occurred leaders think they know better and throw out all of the plans and just shoot from the hip. It sounds like there were some real pompous asses that were protecting their territories, refusing to cooperate with other agencies. Kingdom building seems to be in the nature of bureaucratic leaders. I'd say the accumulation of problems from Bush down to local police just overwhelmed the community.

But like health care reform, the power hungry are so caught up in their own selfish agendas they forget real lives are at stake.

Coreen said...

Started a new post, here's to the weekend.

Ivy Green said...

Don,
Thank you for filling in the details of the Big Thompson Flood. It's hard to know why it's not as famous (or infamous) as the Johnstown PA Flood.

Ivy Green said...

Carol,
I remember them saying (talking heads, that is) that the lack of response to the Katrina victims was racially motivated. But I attributed it then and now to political motivation. It had a "Rovian smell" about it.