Sunday, May 9, 2010

Oh Happy Day all you Mothers!

Once a year it is your day to get some of that well deserved recognition but the other 364 you got the responsibility and the blame. I'm not going to write a disssertation on motherhood but I do want to tell you all that I think that being a mother is one of the most important and the toughest jobs that anyone can ever have and one that you can never retire from and sorry, there's no pention.

Hope you all have a wonderful Mother's Day and that your kids visit....or call....or write.....

Happy Mother's Day

PS. If someone does want to write a dissertation, feel free to bump this post off. I was just warming a place.

184 comments:

jan said...

In reference to the last post:
"Her parents told little GD sat morn and told me she cried a lot. We saw her last night and she is just fine. We are planning a little memorial service when we get the ashes. "

Carol, thanks for the lovely tribute to the mothers.

jan said...

I would like to say "thank you" to all the aunties who are 2nd moms to their kids and to those kids that they keep watch over when they come to visit at the river/camp

Carol, I am specifically talking to you - and to anyone else who fits this description.

jan said...

"to all the aunties who are 2nd moms to their sisters' or friends' kids"

jan said...

It is a little easier around here this morning than yesterday morning. We are staying busy and that helps.

Carol said...

Jan, of all the subjects that one could write about, writing about mothers is one of the most important. Unfortunately, it would take great effort to do it right and I don't have that in me right now.

Carol said...

I'm glad you have John, Jan. His sharing your feelings and his support can make this bearable.

There are some people out there that don't understand the significance of losing a pet. And those are people who I can't relate to and don't even want to.

Carol said...

I hate to admit that I have a prejudice but if I find out someone doesn't share my love for animals I don't care to really care to share anything else with them.

Carol said...

And I wonder if someone can't love an animal, are they capable of loving anyone?

Chloe said...

I agree Carol. I think that's one of the ways that children learn to love and show concern - by seeing the way you love and treat your pets. I think that's 'one' of the reasons pets are so important to a child. They can learn about loving relationships in their dealings with them.

To me, our pets always stay in the category of being our 'babies'. That's why it's so hard when we lose them (in my opinion). They are our helpless little baby, full of innocence. Seeing them that way makes it so hard to let go. It's like a piece of us goes with them - and it makes us realize how helpless we are in the big scheme of things.

Coreen said...

Add my Happy Mother's Day to everyone too...
including those who are moms to our fur
family members....

I agree completely with both of you, Carol & Chloe, as far as a person's attitude/feelings about pets....

Carol said...

Yesterday I went to Samsclub to get a couple of boxes of that Morey's Wild Caught Salmon that I like so much. It wasn't there anymore. They have replaced it with this Pure Catch Wild Caught Salmon. It doesn't look the same and I doubt it will taste the same. I wonder why they stopped selling my favorite salmon.

Solar said...

Happy Mothers Day all.!! One of the few day's that I celebrate as a well deserved holiday...will be visiting mine early today...have to beat the crowd...and give Mom her talking points, and two bells that will part of today's present..she has been collecting them..and has a very nice collection....she threw one at me once....it was a cow bell.:-)) I luv my Mommie.....later

Solar said...

I gave her that cow bell as a joke....she was born on a ranch --very rich parents...my Dad was a poor dirt farmer....he used to ring a cow bell sometimes to let her know that he was around...they didn't approve of a dirt farmer...

jan said...

Solar, what a sweet tribute to your mother. LOL - she threw a cowbell at you once. What did you do?

jan said...

I was trying to find a pome this morning to share about mothers. I didn't find a pome but I found something else that is beautiful. This is repeated from a family therapist, Betty Carter, in a book called "The Mother Dance" by Harriet Lerner. It is titled "The legacies of a mother to a daughter" (Solar, I will try to find something about legacies from mothers to sons):

"She teaches her daughter about being a wife, a mistress, a mother, a daughter, a sister and an aunt.
She teaches her how to be or not to be a housekeeper, cook, hostess and a working woman.
She teaches her daughter about being sexual, asexual, or anti-sexual, about being young, middle-aged, and old, about being [married, single] divorced or widowed, about being happy or unhappy.
But most of all, a mother teaches her daughter, whether she plans to or not, about being a female person, and whether that is a possible thing to be or whether it is simply a contradiction in terms."

The words in the [ ] are mine.

jan said...

I agree. I always wonder about people who do not care for creatures other than humans.

jan said...

OK Solar, I found something in "The Mother Dance" for sons and mothers of sons (that would be me.
"It is most important that we try to stay connected to our boys. Mothers are warned that boys may become "effeminate" if we don't bow out of their lives, especially at adolescence. We're told that they need to be "separate" and tough and independent to find their way int the world of men. We're told boys shouldn't be like girls or sons shouldn't be like their mothers. Later, we turn around and say, "Hey! What's wrong with these guys! They can't relate...If mothers want to encourage genuine strength in our sons, we need to do this through our reaching for an ongoing connection with them, not by pulling away or by encouraging them to be different from us."

It was encouraging for me to read this because I am a mother of 3 sons. I never worried about making them "effeminate" but loved and nurtured them just as I would have done if I had had daughters. Today, they are strong men who are kind and gentle with their wives and nurturing to their children (and grandchildren).

An example of this a few weeks ago was when we went to 8 y/o GD's soccer game. 8 y/o GD was sitting on the bench across the field. We could see that she was beginning to cough. Her mother yelled across the field, "use your inhaler" GD nodded her head emphatically "no" In a couple of minutes I noticed my son (her dad) was not beside me - He was across the field helping her with her inhaler.
It was a proud moment for me.

Ivy Green said...

I haven't posted a link to a comment in a while, so I don't know if I did it right. But I wanted to post my "Lobie link" on the related page, but also let you know to go see it there. You're probably still feeling sad, Jan, but hope you will enjoy your Mother's Day.

http://ct-carolssouthernspice.blogspot.com/2010/05/lady-always-knows-when-it-is-time-to.html?showComment=1273416652768#c8645886259099794188

Carol said...

Jan, how often does your little GD have to use her inhaler? Is it mainly when she exercises? Does she also use a steroid inhaler? Even though steroid inhalers do not rapidly open up airways, the use of steroids do work more on the cause of the airway constriction, inflammation.

I've been to several conferences that report if steroid inhalers aren't used that sometimes asthma can advance to a level where the bronchodialators won't work, and the disease can advance to a level where it is more irreversible. I'm sure she is followed by a medical practitioner who knows what to do?? Even though I may not be a fan of systemic use of steriods, when other things may be more appropriate, I am a big fan of the use of inhaled steroids in asthma.

Carol said...

Jan, I remember reading and hearing studies that reported that it is the intimate relationship that you have with your mother that prepares a person for a healthy intimate relationship in their other relationships. You guys know what I mean by intimate. Nothing weird there.

Carol said...

I love that Ivy. Is your mom visiting? And did you get that dusting done?

jan said...

Carol, I hate to admit that I know little about asthma. She does have an asthma specialist. She mainly uses the inhaler for exercise. Her asthma has improved greatly in the past year. They have taken her off the steroids b/c she is small for her age and they were concerned that the steroids might have caused this.

Carol said...

I'm sorry to say that my mom never did have that proper intimate relationship with her daughters. The only way she knew to show love was to be overprotective and she did that to a fault. I didn't blame her because of what her mom did to her, by abandoning her. We did all come out a little screwed up, to some extent, when it comes to intimacy. I'm not sure my sisters would agree, but maybe they would. It is my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Carol said...

If she has an asthma expert, she is in good hands Jan.

Carol said...

Ivy, you are our poetry expert here. You have inspired me to look for and read more of it. Since you have been busy, I had to do some quick scrounging around to find something I thought was appropriate. Thank God for those who are gifted in expressing feelings with poetry and those who inspire us to appreciate it.

Carol said...

And I thank God for Google.

Ivy Green said...

Carol,
My mom will be flying here on Tuesday. Now I get to fret about her travelling by herself the way she used to worry about us when we went out.

I am still cleaning. Hubs and I had a little dust-up about cobwebs in the garage. It was not even my idea to clean the garage in the first place.

On the CBS Sunday Morning show today, they had a segment about children in Japan being taught from a very young age to dust and mop. It was a very cute bit because to the children, scrubbing the floor is playing. The Japanese word for "clean" also is the word for "beautiful."

That must be what happened to me...the nuns used helping them clean as a reward for the good kids. It worked for me because I wanted to peep inside their "real world" of the convent to see where they ate, slept and did other business. I wanted to know if they were "real people" and that was the only way to have a clue.

Ivy Green said...

The CBS Sunday Morning show had several interesting segments today...the did one about sibling relationshsips - our longest relationships in life - and the effect of birth order and sibling rivalry.

Also, they remembered Erma Bombeck, the quintessential loving anti-Mom. I loved her columns; it's still hard to realize she's not with us any longer.

jan said...

Ivy, thank you for putting up that link to the Lobie post. I was able to download it onto my documents and erase all but her picture, the caption and the pome you sent on dogs and heaven. I was then able to send this very special tribute to family and friends without exposing any of my friends on the Swamp. I can always go back and read this again and again very quickly.

We are having family over tonight and I have spent the morning looking for photos of Lobie. I found some great ones. She was so photogenic.

jan said...

Ivy, I am so happy for you that your mother is visiting you. How wonderful!

I too loved Erma Bombeck.

Carol, do you remember the camping-fishing trip you and me and my family took one time. I was reading a book by Erma Bombeck - don't remember which one - I read them all. Erma's writings inspired me to write a little ditty -(don't know if you would call it a poem) all related to our camping trip. Bob, the boys dad, encouraged me to send it to our local paper. I did and they published it on Mother's Day in the section where people write letters and send in. I kept it for a long time but don't know where it is now.

jan said...

In my documents I also kept the pome Carol sent just under Lobie's picture. John is using it in a service he is doing at a nursing home this morning.

jan said...

Carol, my mother was very different from other mothers also. She showed affection to us but she also used me as her therapist when I was too young to handle this. She did not protect us as young kids from a father who tended toward emotional & verbal abuse and occasionally whippings that were too harsh. When I had therapy years later, the therapist said one of my problems was that I was not angry with her. I have thought about this many times. I could never be angry with her - when she was alive or after she died. She was only doing the best she could under the circumstances. This is the only way I can look at it.

Carol said...

No Jan, I don't remember that one. Where did we go? Did Bob go? You will have to help me pull out that memory.

Carol said...

We went fishing? You're not talking about the canoeing trip?? Cabin or tent?

Chloe said...

Jan, I found this at the end of the last thread, and want to make sure you don't miss it, so I'm copy and pasting it over here:

boysko said...

Dad and Jan,
I know you must be heartbroken today. What good dog she was. I'll never forget the story of how she picked you back in Arkansas and made you her family. Words can't express how sorry I am that she is gone.

It was a true honor to know Lobie and to have her in our lives. The girls and Glenn send love and comfort.
Love to you,
Jennifer
May 9, 2010 11:24:00 AM PDT

Chloe said...

"She was only doing the best she could under the circumstances."

Jan, I think your therapist was wrong, and you are right. Your therapist probably thought you were holding your anger inward, or that you should be angry (in my opinion). But instead, you realize that your mother was doing the best she could do according to the way she was thinking at the time. That is much better than hold anger and resentment toward her for the rest of your life - and makes you a healthier person, as far as I'm concerned.

It's not that you've forgiven her, it's that you know that you know that she did the best she could do, under the circumstances (whatever they were, because no one really knows, except your mom). Good for you Jan!

Chloe said...

... sorry for the typos. Fix 'em for me, would ya? :)

jan said...

Chloe, thanks for pulling up that e-mail. That is John's daughter in Virginia. I had sent the link to John and I guess he sent it to his daughter.

jan said...

Carol,
The trip I am talking about was a fishing trip. I think it was somewhere in Texas at a fishing place. We all stayed in a big cabin, not a tent. We cooked. I know you were there. We were there over my birthday and you made me a birthday card out of a brown paper bag and drew an ice skater (a stick figure) on the front. I still have the card. I will have to hunt it. Yes, Bob was there. I think some other people went too. Bill (my son) had an orthodontic retainer and it almost got thrown away.

jan said...

Thanks Chloe for those kind words. I don't know if I am healthier. She did the very best she could. I think that is what we all do.

Carol said...

There are a few bits and pieces coming back now Jan. I do remember the card. I think that was my crazy legs cartoon character. The only one I had. The one with the knobby knees that I used my legs as a model for. By any chance was my old friend Billy with us? And did we make Spam spagetti? I may be getting confused with a few other trips I took. The lost retainer also rings a bell.

jan said...

Yes, you did have a friend go and spam spagetti sounds very familiar. The skater on the card does have knobby kness.

jan said...

Carol, when is your sister from Seattle coming to visit you?

jan said...

Mary, Have not heard from you recently. On the other hand I have not gotten to all the comments from when I was gone. How are you?

jan said...

So what are you guys all doing today. I have been in the kitchen almost all day. I made potato salad and guacomole and cut up a watermelon. We are getting some lean Bar-b-que brisket and a barbeque chicken from a local place. I cannot do as well as they do. A good thing I called them this morning. They were not taking orders after 1 pm. A DIL is bringing dessert. The other DIL went up to Salt Lake City this past week to be with her mother.

jan said...

Chloe, you sound like the same kind of mama and grandmama that I am. I always felt my kids needed to be kids. They all got hurt sometimes and managed to survive. We have spent some time in emergency with all 3. I am a little more cautious with my grandkids- I don't know if its because I am older or I don't want their parents upset with me.

jan said...

Well, back to the kitchen. I am sure missing Lobie today. When I was in the kitchen she always stayed real close in case I dropped anything. If I had any chicken in there, she would get under my feet and I would have to tell her to leave the kitchen. She always did.

Carol said...

I'm not sure when my sister is coming Jan. She was going to come last week but for only about 6 days because she had to be back home for something. I told her that was hardly worth the effort so she postponed her trip. I can't take the whole week off but I can take some days off with more than one weekend. And the guy hasn't started my pool cleaning yet. Maybe he will tommorrow. Once he starts I don't think it will take long and she likes to swim. If I'm gonna chunk a couple of grand into that pool I would like for someone to be able to enjoy it.

I'm converting the pool to a salt system. That requires the addition of more equipment. It should require less chemicals over time and stay cleaner. I'm also gonna use the guy to keep it up after.

Friday I oriented another NP to working in the correctional setting. She will be doing some work at outlying jails, I think. Maybe even relieve me at times. She works for the same hospital I do. It was a good day to show her just how tough it can be. She was only there half a day. After we has seen most of the patients for the morning she said, this is quite mental. One of my nurses was there and said, yes we do have quite a few mental patients. She was talking about the job, not the type of patients. I think she may have been impressed with how tough my job is. Even though I had some complex patients that day but they were all very well behaved, on their best behavior.

Carol said...

What kind of service did John have at the nursing home today? Does he do a church service there?

Carol said...

It's only 75 degrees outside today and I've felt a little cold all day. Weird. That hasn't slowed down the water sports in the river today. My ducks have been fighting a big wake all day as they trek up and down the river. I'm surprised they will even fight all that boat traffic. Sundays are the only really busy days in the river.

Chloe, to answer a question you had a while back, I haven't seen the baby ducks in a while. I haven't been down to HB's house.

jan said...

Carol, I hope with another NP you will get some time off or at least will not be called on so much on your time off. I have heard that the salt water pools are much better. John and I both love to swim but won't put in our own pool. We have always had a university pool or YMCA for swimming. As you are saying, the maintenance on a pool is a lot. You do have a long warm season there so can probably be in your pool for 10 months or more out of the year. Do you have a cover for your pool? - that would help. Terry used to have a pool here and then they sold the house and bought another. He was always working on the pool. He said he didn't want another one. They used their pool a lot.

jan said...

Every 2nd Sunday of the month John does a service at this place - it is really a retirement home - not a nursing home. He does the Eucharist (Communion) and a sermon. He does it on a volunteer basis.

jan said...

Sorry, in my other comment I called it a nursing home.

jan said...

Wow! your temps are about like ours today. It is about 75-80 today. A beautiful day.

Carol said...

This NP has another position at the hospital but might be working in some other things so I'm not counting on getting any serious relief. I guess if I plan some time way in advance she might be able to help out but if they give her extra jobs, that might not happen either.

When I take time off I usually decide to do it at the last minute.

Carol said...

Did anyone see SNL last night? I love Betty White but was not real happy with their writing for that show. It was a little on the rauchy side and at one point made fun of handicapped people. Just not great for her to be part of.

Carol said...

60 minutes will be talking about people walking away from their mortgages. Yesterday, while mowing, I was listening to Richard Florida, on C2C, talk about reshaping our economy. This guy was talking about how we are changing, and need to change, the way we live and work. People will be downsizing their homes and not getting so many, if any, vehicles or keeping them longer.

I never did upsize my home and I'm glad I didn't. I could have afforded to but not until I was older and by then, that didn't matter. I don't think it would have mattered when I was younger. It has been the gluttony that got this country in the trouble it is in.

I'd like to figure out a way to make better use of my house without not still having it available if I need to evacuate. It would be perfect if I could find someone who was handy, needed a place, but didn't present any liability problems. That may be too much to ask.

Carol said...

Hillary's approval rate is much higher than Obama's now. Go figure! To be fair, she doesn't have his job.... but I wish she did.

Carol said...

PBS has a cute show on baby animals.

Carol said...

Except the spider mama who lets her babies eat her to survive. Happy Mama's Day, Ms Spider.

Ivy Green said...

It's great that Craig C. has been posting "guest bloggers." Today's Mothers Day thread is by Fairweather who is also a "Fair Friend" of this blog. It was very interesting to learn of Tennessee's progressive role in the passage of women's suffrage. Obstructicationists are always judged harshly by history, it seems. You'd think they'd learn from that.

jan said...

Carol, have you thought about renting your house? You might think of talking to a real estate company. They manage properties and usually don't charge too much. I know you must be concerned about renting to someone with kids because of the pool. You could rent to adults only.

Ivy Green said...

Solar,
Here is a book for you...author is Jojo Jensen:

Dirt Farmer Wisdom

Chapter 23 - Go to the Dance to Dance

"When you go to the dance to dance, your feet don't get tired...when you go to the dance to dance, the perfect partner will find you."

Carol said...

Ivy, I read Fair's post and enjoyed it. "Mind your mother".

Jan, I don't want to rent it because then I couldn't use it and I have to use the washer/dryer and the pool at times. I was thinking of finding more of a caretaker who could share it. I wouldn't be comfortable with kids because of liability. Was thinking about maybe someone older. I probably couldn't find what would work for me.

Ivy Green said...

This is a link to my third-favorite blog site (after The Swamp and TM). Today's post is a bittersweet hummingbird story in honor of Mother's Day.
There is always food for thought here, especially how our fur friends lead us to spiritual connections. I am a long-time subscriber to the "Great Scots" print magazine, but only discovered the blog site recently following the untimely death of Charlotte, the co-publisher.


Great Scots Blog

jan said...

Ivy, thanks for sharing the Great Scots Blog. I enjoyed reading about the hummers.

Carol, don't give up on finding a caretaker for your house. I bet the person(s) is out there. Let people know what or who you are looking for.

jan said...

I had taped SNL and watched part of it tonight. Nothing is sacred on SNL. I didn't find what I watched particularly funny.

Carol said...

Ivy, how long has it been since his wife died? Couldn't have been over a year since he said this was the first mother's day since. It was a weekend to reflect on lost loves.

I miss my mom. She didn't teach me much about intimacy but see did bust her butt to do so much more. I think she is in a better place. Wouldn't want her here stuck with my SF.

My Hummers have gone nuts this weekend. I sat on my little Hummer deck taking pics with Iphony.

Happy Hummers

Carol said...

Anyone notice that Tiger is getting his Karma? A bulging disk?? Huh! We probably all have at least one bulging disk if we looked. It's his Karma that is affecting his game.

I'm still waiting for those Wallstreet guys and bankers to get there's. Maybe some have. We just might not know about that nasty rash they all have. I have to believe that even though we can't get them, something is.

How do you guys feel about those who can afford to pay their mortgages, walking away because their homes are so grossly underwater? They were talking about it on 60 minutes. In a way I'm glad, that is if it would hurt only thoses who helped to screw us all. The only problem is that it will probably just come back and screw all of us. The real creeps seem to be bullet proof.

I think it might be a good thing if we all decide we don't need bigger everything. We do need to get back to basics. Find what is really important in life.

Carol said...

SNL was one of the most watched SNLs in a long time. It was because of Betty White. The problem with the show didn't have anything to do with Betty. Just bad writing. I agree with her on what she said about Facebook. Except that it is a great place to connect with old friends, like Jan finding me, it is a waste of time. Well, I guess some may call our blog a waste of time. I don't think so since you can just pop in and jot something down and run.

jan said...

The plant that attracted our hummers last year was severely cut back by a man who cleaned up our yard. So we are not seeing hummers. We are going to get some feeders to take its place.

jan said...

Carol, I consider all of you to be my friends. I don't do any other blogging so I don't consider this to be a waste of time. I think if any of us did we would find something else to do. I do go on facebook with my family. We are scattered among several states and it is a good way to keep in touch when we can't see each other. My sister in OK does not have a computer and does not want to learn how to go on line and do e-mail or anything associated with it. She and I talk on the phone some - but it seems less and less lately. I wish she would do e-mail.

jan said...

Carol, as we grow older it is easier to cut back on consuming so much. John and I need and want much less than we used to.

Coreen said...

Carol, the 60 minutes piece on those that were
going to stop paying their mortgage as a resuslt of their house being worth less then the mortgage 'under water'...was really very incomplete...it seemed to infer that they simply didn't want to honor their obligations...

it did not provide enough factual information....did they simply not want to pay any longer? not have adequate income to keep paying? lost a job? not put enough down when they purchased so they did not feel as if they were giving up anything?

and also, consider in reality all people are not meant to own a home...that may sound harsh, but many have no real concept of the other costs, responsibilities of home ownership & ultimately they just can't deal with it all....

While around here houses have not dropped in value as much as in the 'sand states', usually
what we see is a person who for whatever reason lost income & can no longer pay the mortgage, whether the value of the house has gone below the mortgage balance or not...

the banks have not really worked with these people to adjust the loans & then when they have no income, gone through savings, 401ks, either lost a job, not making enough to cover the payment, they may walk away, but usually after they have exhausted all measures to try to keep it...

And yes in the end, the defaults impact not just the homeowner, but ultimately taxpayers,
since fannie/freddie backed most of these loans & we are still carrying them...a problem
that has really not been solved.

Coreen said...

Carol, if you watched your Dylan today, he gave you more to not be pleased with...the
fact that we the American taxpayer are contributing to the bailout not just of our
own but the situation in Greece through are
involvement in the IMF....

Coreen said...

should have been 'our' involvement in the IMF

Coreen said...

Almost missed this....Fannie Mae wants more, more,more....an additional $8.4 billion of taxpayers money after they reported a first 1/4
loss of more than $13 billiion...

The latest request from Fannie will bring the
total bailout for fannie to $83.6 billion & still counting, and yet the SO-CALLED FINANCIAL
REFORM BILL DOES NOTHING TO ADDRESS THE GLARING PROBLEMS AT FANNIE/FREDDIE!

The total bill for fannie/freddie will be almost $145 billion....& still counting....

Carol (& anyone else for that matter) do you really think most people are remotely interested in any of this?

Fannie Mae seeks $8.4 Billion

Carol said...

I saw that about Greece Coreen. One of the guys interviewed on 60 minutes said he could pay his mortgage but was choosing not to because his house was valued less than what he was paying. He was choosing to walk away from it.

Carol said...

Coreen it does make me mad. I see all the hard working taxpayers here struggling to pay their debts and their taxes and they don't get a bailout. They are having to bail out all these banks and other countries. Really pisses me off.

Carol said...

Yes Dylan will get ya mad but I'd rather know the truth anyway.

Carol said...

We should have known long before this. Some of us would have not lost money if we had a clue what was going on. My intuition told me but noooo I had to listen to some AH banker.

Carol said...

Jan, your sister is short changing herself not to try to keep up with the new technology. It gives us access to so much information and connectivity with family and friends. Even my mom learned to use email, bitching all the while.

Carol said...

Coreen, what do you think about the arguement over the Miranda rights with terrorist? I'm not sure if I care one way or another. It seems to me that the Miranda thingy is just another loophole for criminals to use to get off the hook. Too bad if you blurt out I'm guilty before you see your attorney.

Carol said...

Chloe, you need to check in. When you are away, we worry. Especially after that fall.

Carol said...

And Coreen, many people are so wrapped up in looking at their miserable little pictures that they have nothing left to look at the miserable big picture. And if some of my gun toting peeps down here in the South knew the truth, I'm afraid of what they might do. Some really can't handle the truth.

Carol said...

And Ivy, don't forget to look under the bed. Don't leave any kitties under there and I'm not talking about the one's that meow.

Carol said...

No one mentioned my happy hummers. Did you look at them and don't they look happy. I think they were working up to having some sex. That might make you happy too.

Coreen said...

Carol, I hesitate to even discuss
the miranda warnings argument as related to a suspected terrorist...trying to balance the threats that we now face from these cretins that want to kill americans against upholding long standing laws against self-incrimination is very difficult... but in the end, I would come down on the side of expanding the public safety exception to be consistent with the safety concerns/threats we must face today....

Actually I am more in line with those that beleive that these terrorists should be treated
like enemy combatants,(with as few rights as possible)since in no way are these terrorists your typical criminal type that Miranda was crafted to apply to back 50+ years ago....

jan said...

Carol, I looked at your hummers just now. They are beautiful. Thanks for reminding me to go back and see them. You have a wonderful place - so peaceful. Looking at water just puts me in a different frame of mind.

Coreen said...

Carol, I looked at your hummers earlier,they looked like they were talking or something to each other...the view from your porch
reminded me of that andy griffith comedy from
ages ago....could hear them whistling
while they made their way down to the water...a
much more serene image of the world than reality....

Carol said...

Jan, now that you will soon be retarded, you and the Johnster will have to come visit the Do Drop Inn. I do have a guest room. I think my sister has dibs on June unless she changes her mind again. And you may want to avoid the most miserably hot months of the year unless you are a glutton for punishment. This month has been really great.

Chloe said...

Carol, I was here earlier, and caught up with all the comments, but Ivy linked that 'Great Scots Blog', which I went over to check out, and ended up reading through his blogs over the last year - and before I knew it, it was much later.

Ivy, thanks for linking that. I read about the ordeal with his wife's cancer, and went right through the sad ending. He is such a good writer, and his story was heartbreaking - but still, I'm hooked.

Emma is doing fine, but we seem to have at least one little accident in the making every day now. Today, she got her little ankle caught in the bars in the seating part of the cart (not the spot where her feet were supposed to be, but a narrow opening), and it turned out a lot harder to get out than it was for her to get it stuck in there.

The after her nap, she got her leg (above the knee cap) stuck in the rungs of her crib, then got herself twisted around and couldn't get it out. Once I heard her, I took care of it, but she was all worked up by then.

She's suddenly becoming a little accident prone. I hope it's short lived, and things get back to normal. I'm afraid this is just the beginning though. It's getting a little tough to keep up with her - but I'm managing, and my endurance seems to be escalating.

Carol said...

Yes it is relaxing watching the river mosey it's way by. It can be mesmerizing.

Chloe said...

I betcha Jan and John was have such a good time there Carol. And they love to swim, so with your pool getting changed out, they'll be able to try it out in salt water.

Carol said...

Whew Chloe, that wore me out just reading about it. I'm sweating now.

Chloe said...

Jan, My hummers were late getting here too. I finally hung one of my feeders so they could see it from the south side, and once I did, the nectar disappeared fast. I don't think they could see my feeder in the old place on the north.

Carol said...

Actually Chloe it's not really salt water. I thought it would be also but they say no, it doesn't taste salty. Somehow the system causes the salt to turn to chlorine when it need it. I need to go read about it. I hope it works. The dude doing it will also be doing the maintanence so it will be his problem unless he runs for the hills after he makes the change.

It was almost thru emptying it out when I went by this afternoon. They alway have trouble with that last muddy half foot of water. He may still be there trying to get it out.

Chloe said...

Yeah Carol, the older they get, the more active they get, the more things can go wrong.

Chloe said...

How are you going to keep the mud out of there in the future? I guess that will be his job, huh.

Carol said...

Get your judging hats on.

Carol said...

Chad's dance was a tough one.

jan said...

Oh gosh, you all are already getting DWTS. Please feel free to discuss. I will get back on to talk about what I see when it comes on here.

Carol. We would love to make a trip there. Thanks for the invite. I am anxious for you to meet John. I have not invited him to be on the blog, but I share insights with him from all of you and he enjoys them. He especially liked your post about Lobie. I was able to download just the pic and caption of Lobie and the pomes onto my documents and then send those to family and friends. I also copied it and put on my door at work.

Chloe, It is interesting how kids can get their little body parts caught in stuff and its always harder the extract the body parts. You need to get her into gymnastics when she is a little older. Sounds like that would be a good activity for her. I am so glad you got all little body parts out ok. Raising a child is the toughest thing you can do.

jan said...

Ivy, I am thinking about you. I hope your visit with mother is going well.

Carol said...

Chloe, it was just all the leaves, tree debris, algea and crap that got in over the last year, all concentrated in that last 1/2 foot in the bottom of the deep end. It's 9 1/2 ft deep at the deep end.

Coreen said...

Neicy looks like she's having fun...it was
a cute dance...

Chad & Cheryl as a couple just don't fit for me, she's too short & he's too tall...

Would be a really big surprise if either of them make it to the finals, sorry Carol....

Carol said...

I think Ivy's mom is due tomorrow. She's probably doing that last minute panic clean up.

jan said...

Carol, yes - I agree about my sis. It would open up the world to her. I might just have to buy her an i-pad and see if she will use it. She has a daughter there who could help her with all of that. Maybe she just does not have an interest. She is so much more of an extrovert than I am - so I would think she would love it.

Carol said...

I don't think either will get the mirror ball Coreen but I'm glad they have come this far. It's been fun to watch their progress.

This is also Monday so maybe Ivy is out with the girls. She probably needs a break.

Carol said...

Erin is very tall and she was outstanding with that dance.

Coreen said...

My of my.....Erin knocked it out of the park...

Carol said...

She will definitely get some of my votes tonight. Hope Elizabeth H didn't see that one.

Coreen said...

Tall & very long legs

Carol said...

She should have gotten all 10s for that one.

Coreen said...

Again I forgot about voting...

Carol said...

It's not too late Coreen.

Chloe said...

Jan, I'm glad you mentioned gymnastics (and she loves to dance already). She is looking like she may be athletic - I don't think she's going to be that girly-girly, even though she's smallish and I like to dress her that way.

Carol said...

He looks like he's skating.

Chloe said...

It's so funny what you said about body parts Jan, and so true. It's like those stretchy things we used to get to put our fingers in (when we were kids). Do you remember them? You could put your right and left forefinger easily into each end, then they'd contract when you tried to pull them out, and get stuck.

Coreen said...

Beautiful, graceful, flowing dance...and yes
he could have been skating...he's not quite
there yet, but close...

Carol said...

I think that was called a Chinese handcuffs or something like that.

Coreen said...

Did you realize this was on for 2 hours tonite?

Carol said...

or Chinese fingertraps

Coreen said...

what are you talking about? those paper braided tubes you put on your fingers when you
were a kid?...

Carol said...

I had noticed that I had some Gardenias blooming so I just went out and picked some to bring in for their aroma. Love that Gardenia aroma.

Coreen said...

Oh nice...you have the gardenias...and tonite
it's going to be 30.....

Coreen said...

Well, no question she's my favorite...Derek makes the difference....the team to beat...
pure joy watching them dance

Carol said...

It's warm here tonight. I was feeling cool yesterday.

Carol said...

And Jan, I already like John, from just what we have heard about him.

Carol said...

I still think that Erin did as good a job as Nicole did but I think the judges are a little prejudice. I will counter that with my vote.

Carol said...

My ducks waddle around the yard in the evening vacuuming up any bugs they can find. I'm glad I'm organic out here. Wouldn't want anything to harm them. I love my organic pest control system. They all do their part.

Carol said...

Oh Coreen, it's 78 outside right now. Ok with the breeze that is blowing.

Carol said...

I might need to get a sign for the road in front of my camp... Slow, ducks might be crossing.

Coreen said...

Breeze...we have had a 20 to 40 mph wind since saturday & chilly....there are so many leaves, small branches in my yard...luckily no big ones or loss of electricity....windy today, but
nothing like yesterday....the predicted freeze
tonite may damage some early plantings & fruit for farmers....

Carol said...

That's not good Coreen. It's May for Gosh sake.

Carol said...

That's not good Coreen. It's May for gosh sake.

Carol said...

You know it isn't easy for a full figure girl to do that kind of dancing.

Carol said...

I think she did better than they gave her credit for. I'm talking about Niecy, just in case someone reads this later.

Coreen said...

Carol, no question Niecy has grown into a really nice dancer....& the judges are being
pretty picky....

My pick already to be the next one out though
is Chad....he's also improved greatly, but
I just don't buy the pairing at all...

Carol said...

I didn't care for the choreography on that dance.

Carol said...

referring to Erin's second dance. I blame the pro.

Coreen said...

The music & the dancing just did not seem to fit....but what a split...ouch! & again she really has long legs...

Coreen said...

By the way, doesn't anyone have any comments about today's supreme court nomination...I
am pleased with it...but the long knives
are out fast....

Chloe said...

Carol, I looked up Chinese finger traps and sure enough, you're right! What a memory. Chinese finger trap

... I hate those things - they give me the creeps. It's almost claustrophobic for me.

See you all tomorrow.

Carol said...

We used to call them Chinese handcuffs when I was a kid, Chloe.

Coreen said...

Well, they did it well, but it was a bit strange for my tastes...

Carol said...

When you were talking about all the little binds Emma get herself into it reminds me of me, Chloe and not when I was a kid, I'm still doing it.

Carol said...

I agree. I guess we just aren't that futuristic.

Carol said...

Maybe Ivy is stuck under the bed, reaching for that last dust kitty.

Carol said...

Yeap, they are good. I think he is really great. She is also.

Coreen said...

No doubt...they are just superb...that was a perfect paso....derek & nicole....I can't say
enough about just how good they are together...

Coreen said...

and there was a quick glimpse of 'grease' dancing in there too...

Coreen said...

perfect scores...perfect dance....

Carol said...

She'll get that mirror ball. She does deserve it.

Carol said...

But then again, she started at a much higher level, and she does have the best pro. She also has more of a body for dancing.

Coreen said...

Not sure about a win, never know but we'll see...

And I checked C2C, wish I could stay awake & wish my signal came in better...I have
tried to listen, but I haven't heard any of them...here's what's on tonite....

'cryptozoology'...bigfoot, mystery cats, and you know there's a chupacabra....& naturally a UFO....

Anomalous Phenomena
Paranormal researcher Stan Gordon will discuss UFO and cryptozoological phenomena including sightings of Bigfoot, Thunderbirds, mystery cats, and small aerial spheres, as well as offer an update on the Kecksburg incident of 1965.

Carol said...

Coreen, if you have a streamlink subscription, you can listen to those programs anytime and if you have an Iphony, you can listen to them anywhere. I have both. It was a little over 29 bucks for the subscription for 6 months. I think that's worth it. Hey, I've mowed my yard with George and his guest twice now. I was surprised I could hear over my riding mower. I had it on full volume.

Carol said...

As for the new SC nomination, I don't know enough yet to have a opinion. I like what I have heard.

Coreen said...

Carol, only listen to a real radio, don't use an ipod, no iphony, & honestly, would not listen to anything I had to use an earbud or whatever they call it now...so I'm stuck with the good old fashioned radio...

Did you send a pic to Craig for his video, was
just looking for one, found a couple I could
send, but can't decide, I must be vain.....

Carol said...

No Coreen. He said he would prefer a human pic and I only wanted to send the little Vertigo in his basket pic. I don't want a me pic.

Carol said...

But I think they do know me as an owl??

Coreen said...

Carol, pretty sure you could send vertigo with your CT tag...He said something about pets,
if you didn't want to send your own...I'll see if I can find what he said...

Coreen said...

Found it...

"Hey your photos for our June anniversary video are rolling in. Keep 'em comin -- self-pics preferred but if you're shy a pet, favorite plant, whatever, will do -- include your TM screen name and send to cqtrailmix@verizon.net

Posted by: Craig Crawford | May 9, 2010 10:16 AM"

Coreen said...

Time for me to get a movin...I'm going to try
to catch C2C later...

Carol said...

I don't know how you can listen to tonights C2C. It doesn't start until 10 PM Pacific time, midnight here and that would be 1 AM there. We do get a rerun of the previous night show earlier on some nights. That starts at 10 P here. Maybe that is what you are getting, the previous night's program.

My bedtime. Nite.

Happy Mom visit Ivy.

Ivy Green said...

All the logistics for Mom's visit are in place. I've done all I can do. Got a wheel chair today even though Mom said she'd "manage" without one. My bro called today "on the QT" that I should not listen to her protests and get the chair anyway. I panicked, thinking I'd waited too late, called a bunch of places. Several places don't rent, only sell. But I went on-line and found a place near Hubs' office that rented us a brand-new portable chair for $25 for 8 days. I thought it was a bargain. Shhh, don't tell Mom, she'll think it cost too much.

Ivy Green said...

Chloe,
I know what you mean by Joseph Harvill's writing being so mesmerizing. I have been following his writings since 1998 and have always found him deeply moving. His experiences of losing some of his dogs in the past are masterpieces in the study of grief and recovery. Losing his beloved wife Charlotte in January has been the greatest test of all.

Ivy Green said...

I am scheduled for a "boob job" in the morning before getting Mom at the airport. Do you think she'll notice?

Actually, it a mammogram that's been on the schedule for a year. If I have learned anything these past years, it's you must take care of yourself first, or you may not be here to take care of the ones you love.

jan said...

I thought Erin's first dance was the best they have done. It was hot.

jan said...

Chloe, sounds like Emma is very limber. She is also very petite and she may be double jointed. She sounds like the body-type of my 8 y/o GD. She was in gymnastics for 2 or more years and it really was great for her flexibility. She finally decided she did not want to do it anymore, but she was so good at it.

Ivy Green said...

This is another entry from the Great Scots Blog. I liked it so much I wrote it into my Pome Book...mark what you leave.

"A quote from Aldo Leopold’s, A Sand County Almanac, leaped out at me today. I thought of you when I read it. It’s Robinson’s injunction to Tristram, part of Irish medieval legend:

Whether you will or not
You are a King, Tristram, for you are one
Of the time-tested few that leave the world,
When they are gone, not the same place it was.
Mark what you leave."

jan said...

Ivy, I found Geraldine Brooks book in Pagosa Springs last week (the one about the plague). I want to finish the one I am reading and will start that one next. I can hardly wait. It sounds so good.

jan said...

I loved Nicole's and Derek's dances this week. He is an amazing choreographer and teacher. She is a perfect student. I think they are the ones destined to win the trophy. I like Evan but skating is his thing. He is a good dancer, but not star quality. I think it will be either Neicy or Chad who will go home. I would like to see Erin get another chance.

jan said...

Ivy, don't know why I thought your mom was here now. I have not been myself.

jan said...

"those paper braided tubes you put on your fingers when you
were a kid?..."

Coreen, Chloe and all that responded on these, it didn't take much to entertain us when we were kids, did it?

jan said...

I like what I have read about the new Supreme too. She will add a lot. Hey, we will have 3 women on the SC. Hip HIp Hooray.

Carol said...

I went to the Scot's blog and found the answer to my question. It helped that you gave me a hint Ivy. Yes he is a good writer and it was a sad story.

Hope your day goes well today Ivy. Hope the squeeze isn't too unpleasant. It helps if you have something to squeeze. I think I always leave just a little bigger than when I went in. I hate it when they try to put a small boob in that vise grip and then say don't breath. I'm thinking that if I did I would rip something.

I'm pretty delinquent with my mammogram. I'm pretty delinquent with all my health care.

jan said...

I am winding things down at work. I have been working madly to clear my office. I still need to buy a computer for myself - maybe next week - this week is pretty busy. I don't have students any longer but I have a commitment to the agency I do family health screenings for - it is called a faculty practice and I won't end that until May 31. I went to a meeting in the nursing program yesterday - and felt some nostalgia that this is my last meeting to attend. There are some new things planned for the nurs program that sound really interesting. I guess this is part of the grief process.

jan said...

Carol, I would feel better if you scheduled a mammogram.

jan said...

"If I have learned anything these past years, it's you must take care of yourself first, or you may not be here to take care of the ones you love"

Ivy, you are so right.

jan said...

And we all have those who are looking to us for care and love though they may not be young children at home.

jan said...

We have a small university 9 hole golf course about 3 blocks from our home that we walked Lobie on. Its about a 2 1/2 mile walk. John just left to go do it on his own. He has been dreading it. I will walk over to the pool to swim in a few minutes - about a 2 mile walk for me. Not so bad for me as I didn't take Lobie on that walk.

jan said...

"I wonder why they stopped selling my favorite salmon."

Carol, I just hate it when my grocery or drug store stops carrying something I like.

jan said...

New post!

Ivy Green said...

I hate it when they stop MAKING something I like. I am learning to quit liking stuff cuz it may be the kiss of death for that product. lol