I made my reservations for Ireland on computer last night. I got my return date wrong by one month. John found the error this morning. So had to cancel the reservation. So now to start over. Probably should not have done that at 10 pm when I am not at my best. I have e-mailed the leader of the journey and asked some very important questions before I make the flight reservations.
Very nice views of a tranquil place Jan...I remember the lake with the cross on the other side...it looks so peaceful there...
And today, so far that's about as much snow as we have...dusting on the grass, but the roads/driveway is wet...but the wind has not let up so cold...they pushed the snow back a day, it was supposed to be several inches already but!...still saying 2-6", but hoping that whenever it starts we only get a little, or none...
I with Maggie about noise...when carpenters were working here, the hammering made you want to just leave...
I just got back from Wally World. Just needed a few things. There are some things I just don't want to run out of. It's a neurosis.
There's a phenomena I experience when I go to Walmart. It's not in the grocery section but anytime I have to go to any other sections of the store, housewares, garden center, automotive supplies, etc. After a few minutes, I have this urgent desire to go to the bathroom. I'm usually about as far away as I can get from it when the attack hits me. I have to race walk back to the front of the store, park my buggy by a empty check out and attend to my need. I don't understand why it happens. Must be some smell or something.
I used to have the same problem when I went to any library or bookstore. The library could have been at school, at the hospital, or public library. Bookstores did the same thing, any bookstore. I usually started my book shopping close to the restrooms. I assumed it must be some allergy to a book smell.
I read the other day somewhere that some public official was arrested when he parked his buggy by the bathroom at Walmart to go use the bathroom. He just had some beer and something else in his buggy. He said that he was not aware that he couldn't pass the register. The story was a little sketchy. Maybe he is senstive to the same smell.
Carol, I have the same problem. Whenever I do any kind of shopping, this happens to me. It is very embarrassing. I don't know why this happens. It does not usually happen with grocery shopping but often does with other kinds of shopping. I have often thought that shopping may have a calming or relaxing effect.
With 2 friends providing care above & beyond to husbands with illnesses from which there is no recovery...often wonder would or could I manage to do the same (with an elderly parent who so far is ok, but at anytime may require much more care)still not sure...Carol, you have passed the test with exceedingly high marks...have to say that some of thoughts expressed have crossed my mind on more than one occassion... After the caregiving ends
Coreen, mama had Hospice for at least 16 months. They provided her meds and came to check on her weekly. They tried to suggest to me that I back off giving her her meds. She no longer went to any docs or had any labs done. She was bedridden. We had her in a hospital bed in the living room.
Her type of cancer caused severe BP, fluid and electrolyte and blood sugar problems. I had my Bp cuff, my glucose monitor and my physical assessment skills. I was probably as good as any lab tests. I adjusted all her meds to deal with what I assessed was going on. She didn't talk much but she was still in there and probably as sharp as I was, maybe sharper. She still loved eating and we made sure that was exciting for her. I adjusted her insulin to keep her BS in a good range.
One day, I did tell her that it was totally up to her if she wanted to continue her meds. There were things about her existance that I wouldn't have tolerated but she was tough. I think that the most impressive thing that I ever saw with my mom was the way she handled the misery of dying.
She didn't indicate that she was ready to quit her meds so I continued them. She wasn't ready to go until she couldn't eat, then it was beam me up Scotty.
Since teen pregnancy and parenting have been the topic of my primary work and my research, I am ambivalent about the posters.
Where do I begin? I agree with PP that many teens who get pregnant are not happy about it and already feel shame. The posters will only increase that shame.
A big problem is that often the pregnancy is a result of coercion by the father when he wants to keep his "woman/girl" under his control.
My problem with the posters is that no one focuses on the father of the baby in these situations and a woman can only get pregnant approximately once a year and yet these FOB's (Fathers of these babies) can impregnate several young women in a short period of time.
I slept on this old curved sectional in the living room with her. I'm surprised I can stand up straight to this day but I only caught about 2 hours of sleep a night. I was wasting away with my hyperthyroidism. She watched me all the time and even though she no longer talked, she would frequently say.."you're a good girl Carol" She wasn't one to give many compliments even though I knew she was proud of me.
I think we should continue to have discourse about unplanned pregnancy in young women. I am saying unplanned because some older teens are actually married, have a source of income, are going to school and are good parents. I know because I work with these young women. So, I am greatly annoyed that the Mayor of NYC and the general public generalize about this.
BTW - in case people are not informed, late pregnancy and the early to mid 20's are biologically the best time for a woman to have a baby. Her eggs have not been exposed to many contaminants and she is much less likely to have a baby with birth defects and a baby who has Down's Syndrome and Autism. So my message out there to all people who are so f***** judgemental, do your research folks!
Carol, you are a wonderful daughter. Your mother was so lucky she had you. I am sure she is looking down on you and thanking you for all your devoted care of her.
fathers of babies...looks like you may agree with none other than Geraldo Rivera...he harps on this regularly...
"In terms of entitlements, I would seek to alter all social programs that reward bad behavior. No one reading this can deny that minority communities are often rejecting marriage so as not to infringe on various government benefits.
Fix it with what I call Geraldo’s law: there has to be a father’s name on every birth certificate. Dad will be responsible for his fair share of the child’s rearing. Federal programs should be crafted to encourage two parent families -- that’s not social engineering, that’s common sense."
Jan...unfortunately in urban communities particularly, teen pregnancy is all to common & perpetuates generations who can never rise from poverty...why is it judgmental, when the ads intent is to point out the real consequnces of the personal behavior...which most often are negative all around...
Just heard on the news that our Senator Boustany, a physician, opposed universal background checks for gun purchases. Said it would be too much of a burden on the Fed government. I just sent him a letter that I was opposed to him. He's a Republicant.
Just wanted y'all to know in case I'm gunned down.
Oh, Rant is worried that Obama is going to use a drone to gun down some innocent person at a coffee house. I thought they favored having good guys with guns. Oh, the NRA doesn't make drones yet, do they.
Coreen, I do know very well how teen pregnancy contributes to keeping these women and their children in poverty.
In the program I work with now, we are making a strong push for use of contraception that a woman does not have to depend on her memory or whether she has the money this month or 3 months from now to prevent pregnancy or depend on her sexual partner. We are pushing IUD's and the little tubes put in the arms to deliver the contraception.
Guess what, I just read on national news that New Mexico leads the nation in teen pregnancy. The major problem is in small towns that have one pharmacy and the teens do not want to go to that pharmacy to get their birth control because their auntie or someone they know works there.
What we need is accessible, free and effective birth control for teens. Teens are going to have sex. That is a fact.
The problem is that the right wingers and religious folks are preventing good sex education and accessible and free birth control in the schools. We do have programs that provide this BC but it is only in the larger cities and communities.
Coreen, thanks for putting up that info about Mayor Bloomberg and the posters. I like to know what is going on in the country. I sometimes miss the stuff going on in your part of the nation.
The biggest proportion of teen pregnancies are going on in the southern states - also known as the bible belt- but also here in NM where we have a good proportion of undocumented people and Native Americans who lack access and themselves live in abject poverty.
Again, all that being said Jan, I find the PP statement denouncing Bloomberg's poster campaign to be disengenuous...shouldn't any method that reaches the target audience & which may prove effective be tried (including shame if it has the needed effect)...especially in light of the fact that apparently the efforts so far have had no significant impact on this societal problem...
And if the article is accurate, Bloomberg's adm has tried to reduce teen pregnancies by mandating sex education & authorizing high school nurses to provide birth control...
As the article states it is important to 'send a strong message that teen pregnancy has consequences, and those consequences are extremely negative, life-altering & most often disproportionaetly borne by young women'....
This Arias trial is making history. They have had her on the stand for 15 days. The two attorneys have asked her every question known to man and the jury still had 200 questions for her when they finished. Arizona allows the jury to question the defendant. After she answered those questions, the attorneys had a chance at her again. Then the jury was sending in more questions. By the time this is trial is finished, the jury will feel like they are related to her. I think there will be at least one juror that will find in favor of her. She's even gotten to ME.
I created a new soup, for me, for supper. It's a potato broccoli soup. Sauted some onions and a little garlic. Diced up potatoes, put them and some broccoli florets into some water, not too much, added seasoning. Cooked that down. Later I added cut up green onion tops. Cooked, stirred until it was slight green creamy soup. At the end, added some American cheese. Not too much. Ate two small bowls. It was good. After a little while I thought, I know what would make it even better. I got another bowl and added a dollop of sour cream. That did it.
I was going to also make a salad to get my green stuff in but I was too full. Then I remembered that I had my daily allowance of vitamin A with my green broccoli. Only need a cup to get in the full good.
The Redbook is a very large book - would qualify for a coffee table book. It has the most beautiful illustrations and I think Jung did them. I am going to order it from Amazon for John for our anniversary or a birthday. It is gorgeous. It is also expensive. But he's worth it.
Just finished watching Idol. Almost all of my favorites made it to the top 10. One of my fav girls did not make it. I like the show better this year. They have cut out some of the sadness.
Nikki Minaj is interesting. I have grown to like her.
After reading this review by N. Furlotti Phanes on Amazon, I want to have it also.
"I HAVE the Red Book and am in the process of reading it. It is beyond description! This truly unique book represents the personal journal one courageous man took into the dangerous realm of the unconscious in search of an understanding of himself and the structure of the human personality in general. In the process, Jung regained his soul which was lost in the contemporary malaise of spiritual alienation. Liber Novus, as the book is called, represents a prototype of the individuation process, which is seen as the universal form of individual development. Jung was a psychiatrist who worked with schizophrenics. He intuited that their fantasies held meaning important for their healing and saw that some of the fantasies corresponded to mythological motifs. This curiosity lead Jung to his own decision to drop beneath consciousness to explore the realm of these fantasies, the realm of the "dead". He did this without chemicals or inducers but through a process he called active imagination. An inner world opened up to him to explore, which he documented in his writings and paintings. The book itself is like a medieval manuscript created with great care. He worked on the book for 16 years, giving it to others to read and edit with the intention of it one day being published. Liber Novus is a book of wisdom and deserves to be studied. It invites the reader into the world of imagination--like the dream world. I have studied my dreams for years and the language is similar. It shows what we have to learn when we slow down and listen to the inner voices. I thank Jung for giving me a guide to the soul, or human personality--which ever language one prefers."
And I am proud of you for swimming, walking and making your soup. I'm impressed that you could swim in the winter even inside of a building and in a heated pool. If it's not 102, it too cool for me in the winter. Now, that's not the same as in the summer here. 92 is kinda warm then.
I'm finding there are so many things that I can do that are as meaningful as going to work. And they are diverse and I'm pretty much in charge of what I do, when.
I planted my topsy turvy tomato. That's a trick to do without breaking the stem. I like that I don't have to worry about stakes. That concept works here but I wouldn't have anywhere good to hang it at the house. Also transplanted my parsley. My green onions have seen their better days so I got some new ones. I just buy regular green onions at the grocery, use the tops and plant the bottom. I have a planter box here and at the house.
Posters for the fathers should read something like: planting your seed and getting a woman pregnant is no proof of your manhood, it's providing support for the mother and baby that will prove you are a real man.
Obama has often tried to push that idea, especially with the brothers.
Social services came to the jail often to do DNA to find the fathers. When they did, they were responsible for child support but if they didn't provide it, they went to jail or were already there to begin with. If not in jail, each time they got behind, they came to jail and if it was more than once, they had to stay longer. Kid's didn't get the money and taxpayers paid the dead beat dad's room and board while he hung out with the home boys in the dorms at jail. They just got farther behind.
They need to house these guys in a work camp where they have to go to work somewhere seven days a week, either their own job or find a minumun wage job. Their salary should be confiscated and divided, part for child support and the other to cover their room and board. Accomodations should be sparce. No good food or sitting around watching TV or playing cards. They serve their time that way and then are released.
Most of those guy in the jail have no problems being there. They have three squares a day,room service, hang out with friends, watch TV, get the best health care they have ever had. Mamas and girlfriends put money on their books to buy junk food. They make their prison gourmet meals by contributing each of their stuff to the pool. The results are called hook ups. They sound gross to me but it luxury to them.
That prison commissary was big business at the jail and is at all of them, I'm sure. The families came in and poured money into this machine they finally put in to collect it. I'm sure the products were the cheapest shit they could find, marked up as high as they could. Ramen noodles was a big seller. That was one of the basics for most hookups. The inmates told me they were very much higher than what they were on the streets.
There were a lot of canned seafood stuff, most likely made in God only knows where. I looked to see if there was anything healthy that they could buy.... NOT. I had to include what they should avoid in the commissary in my teaching. I'm almost positive there were things that they used there that were responsible for some of these mystery rashes many had. I know I identified some totally new skin disorders. If I could have proved it, I could have a lot of new rashes named after me...ie, Carol's eczema, Carol's dermititis of unknown origin, Carol's skin rot, etc.
I acquired a specialty in dermatology working in corrections. One day, I'm going to gross you all out and put some of the pics that I have on iPhoney, as a post. Some of those pics I took so I could get some help with them. I got no help. There was a Derm who did some work at the charity hospital that I worked for. I was provided to the jail by that hospital to keep most of them out of there. I couldn't get any help from him but I'm not sure if he even knew that I was trying. They had people that intervened to keep me from talking to him.
I spent an entire lunch break trying to get in touch with him once. I got so close. After begging, they finally said they would get him on the phone. My effing phone dropped the damn call. When I called back they said...too late. I almost cried. It was a guy who had laid in a red ant pile when he was being arrested. He was a solid pustule from almost one end to the other. It was about the same as having a severe burn. I was on my own. Thank God he was tough. Everything came out OK because God was on my side, dang it. God never let me down. She sent me help from above constantly. She would clue me in that there was something going on when there weren't even signs of it. It spooked me at times. If I would have started that job as a non-believer, I certainly would have converted somewhere during my time there! She finally told me..Carol, it's time to leave. They don't deserve you! I knew it was a sign!
The only thing I'm sorry about is that I feel that I deserted my inmate patients there. I pray that they will be OK. I'm sure they will, they are a very tough breed. It would probably be close to impossible to kill most of them.
One thing that often broke my heart was seeing some crippled up old lady come in to put money on her cocky ass son's books. She probably worked her old fingers to the bone to make that money while her son enjoyed the home boy's club. They even told their families lies to get more money. They would tell their families that I was charging for something they needed. Found that out by accident many times.
Carol, I am touched that you ordered the Red Book. I know you will love it. I have not ordered it yet but think now I will go ahead and order it.
I loved what Jung said about schizophrenics. There is another Jung book that is good - mucho cheaper. It is Memories, Dreams and Reflections. It is a bio of Jung. You would be amazed how many books there are that are about or by Jung.
If you are getting into your dreams and active imagination, there is another book that I love and it is so easy to read. It is Inner Work by Robert Johnson. Can get it at Amazon - it is paper back and not expensive. Johnson is dead now but he is also a follower of Jung.
The singer/songwriter who wrote Hallelujah is Leonard Cohen. He lives in Canada and has written lots more.
Our dream group at Kanuga adopted a phrase in one the songs by L. Cohen. It goes like this:
"Ring the bells that still can ring. Forget your perfect offering. There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
I love that. One of the people in our group put that on a small card. and tied a little bell (jingle bell) to the card and we gave the cards to all the others in different groups at our graduation ceremony (which essentially was an Episcopal church service with a Eucharist (Communion). It was a lovely service. We all participated.
What that phrase by Cohen meant to me is that "it is the cracks or the imperfections in life that are the most meaningful. It is those failures or mistakes we make in life that bring us the greatest meaning - or that make us truly human." These are the things that help make connections other humans.
I think about all your work in Corrections and with people who have made so many mistakes in life. That is why they are there. You have such strong feelings for these people. They are some of the most vulnerable in our country. In working with them you have learned so much about yourself - and human nature. That really comes out in your writings and stories you tell about your work with them.
Thinking of that phrase by Cohen. A story about the early quilters in this country that I read about years ago. When a woman made a quilt, she made sure there was an imperfection in it somewhere, that was noticeable. This is because, only God is perfect.
Thanks for your insight Jan. And thanks for your intro to the Redbook. I can't wait to get it.
I just heard that there's a small town in Georgia they are trying to make a law to require that every household has a gun. What kind of freedom is that?? Worse than going into those homes and taking their guns.
Jan, if I made a quilt, I wouldn't have to work on creating an imperfection. Pretty much everything I do has many imperfections and I don't even have to work at it. I'm gifted in that way. LOL
Like Jung appreciated studying his schizophrenics, I always paid close attention to my psychotics and what they said. I thought that maybe they were speaking in codes and I might be able to break it and learn something. You never know..
I had a dream last night that I want to tell about. In my dream, my dad and I are driving somewhere on a narrow paved road. We come to a hairpin curve in the road going left and then go over a little wooden bridge and then turn right. We get out of the car because I have to open a gate to get to the other side. I have a small paper card that I put up to a place in the top of the gate. The card has a code on it that will be scanned at the gate. After that I know I must put this metal piece that fits into another metal piece on the gate to get the gate to open. But when I put the paper card up to the scanner, the card catches fire and I know we won't be able to get through the gate. There are a couple of people behind me waiting, but behind them is a man in a white uniform. I recognize he is a delivery person and he tells me that when he goes through the gate, we can go through also. That is the end of the dream.
I have been thinking a lot about this dream and it reminds me of my dad. There are several ways I can think about this dream. One is that yesterday morning I was very upset about the fact that I made an error in trying to book my airline flight and had to cancel it. John was the one who found the error.
My dad told us girls, my sister and I, that we needed to marry because we needed a man to take care of us.
I remember also that when I was about 4 or 5 I went to work with my dad one day. He had a milk route at that time and I think he wore a white uniform.
Somehow I think there is a connection to my making flight arrangements for myself and failing at it somehow.
I need to go ahead and make the arrangements myself again as I felt like a failure yesterday. It is sort of like "getting on the horse again."
Thinking about my dream, Jung said that every person in the dream is "you" the dreamer. Men represent my masculine side of which there are 2 men in my dream. I think of my dad as a critical parent. One whom I do not like to fail. The other man is young, dressed in white and friendly and is helpful. So, this is a dream I will work on for a few days.
I do believe the dream is telling me that it is ok to fail at something, I can accept help without feeling like a failure and to go back and try again at whatever I have failed. Making that reservation for a flight is a masculine activity.
Dang if you don't make a few mistakes trying to do that kind of complex task, you would probably qualify for a diagnosis of obsessive compulsive disorder. Thank God you're normal.
Or just maybe I will go out to the airport and to Amer Airlines and have them make my reservation. They wear uniforms too. Maybe that is what my dream is saying. Make it easy on yourself. You don't have to do it the hard way. He he.
By the way, my dad retired after 25 years with Amer Airlines.
No Carol, I am probably "abby normal" Do you remember that part in Young Frankenstein where they are looking at brains in jars. They go down the shelf of brains in jars and see different people's names on the jars and they come to one that says "normal" and then to one that says "abby normal." That was such a funny movie.
Nice, you are planting topsy turvys & I'm looking at snow & more snow!...haven't even opened the garage to see how much yet, at least 8" & still snowing...did manage to throw seed out the windows again & can get out the front door...
as for guy in white uniform being HOT. Never even consider that now. I like it when they are friendly and if I need something from them that they are helpful. Don't care about HOT any more - except in my dreams. LOL I actually have great dreams about guys who are hot.
Coreen, yesterday I kept watching your weather and waiting for that snow to blast ya. Every time I checked it just said "overcast". Then I look away for a little while and all hell breaks loose.
They kept moving the storm back...it started last evening & just about stopped...since it was warm it seems to have compressed on the blacktop streets but piled up in the grass...
wound up with 5-7" in the driveway but 10" on the grass...the driveway is plowed & the streets, but again the birds & deer can't get to the ground...cleared a path in 2 places in the grass for them...it really needs to warm up a lot so it all melts fast, the animals are suffering not being able to get to the ground for food...
Coreen, remembering dreams takes some discipline. I usually remember them immediately after I wake up and before I get out of bed. Some people keep a pad and pencil beside their bed and write the dreams before getting out of bed. When I first wake up and remember I had a dream. I lay in bed for a few minutes and work at remembering and reviewing the dream. I can then get up and do my usual activities (hint hint) and then get my dream journal and write my dream. The process of writing what I remembered and reviewed a short time before helps me to remember more details especially feeling sort of things and details like "the road turned left or right."
We have many dreams while we are sleeping and in REM phase of sleep. We go in and out of REM sleep all through the night. My dreams seem to be in the last minutes of sleep before I wake. If I am not sleeping well I don't remember my dreams, so I think my REM sleep is disturbed at those times.
Hmm Carol. I guess I did go into work for shits and giggles. Ha ha ha. After being away for a full day, just want to check for any mail or things that need to be done before the weekend.
I just finished a fine dinner. I grilled up one of those filets. I could only eat half of it and Maggie had almost half of the part eaten. I think she could have finished it off but she didn't get that opportunity. She already had her dinner before the steak. I don't eat steak very often but when I do, it's a filet. I want something that melts in my mouth and it certainly did that.
I also sauted some asparagus but no room for that. I just can't eat much at one time but I do eat often.
Looking back on some of what we talked about yesterday had me pondering. So much of what we do in this life were assignments we were given. We didn't exactly choose them. To a certain extent we chose whether we would accept those assignments but that's even iffy.
That job at the jail chose me. The CEO at the hospital that hired me heard from someone that I would be someone who would be a good choice for that job because of my previous experiences. They called me. I had recently left that old doc who I was working for because he wanted me to stop educating my patients at the prison when I provided the medical care for them. I had only gone back to work for him under strict conditions.
Think back on your life and ask yourself, did I chose that or did it chose me? Did you choose to marry an abusive man? Did you choose to be born to parents who worked hard and raised you right?
Even my career in nursing wasn't of my choosing. It was mom's choice. I chose to accept the assignment.
When we have elderly or dying parents, did we chose that assignment? If we end up having to raise children later in life, did we chose that? We chose not to ditch those assignments but we didn't exactly think...boy I can't wait to be given that assignment.
Many, who I took care of in my corrections experience, didn't exactly chose all those assignments either.
Look back on your life and see how many things that happened were totally your choice and your choice alone.
We may have chosen some of those situations and experiences but I don't think it was in this lifetime. Could be our souls chose them because those experiences would provide opportunities for our souls to evolve.
I've often pondered why some people were given such miserable existances like a little child born with some awful condition. One who comes to mind is little Mattie Stepanek. Did you ever meet him? I saw him on Oprah's show. He had some chronic debilitating condition and he died at a very young age but he accomplished so much before he died. He inspired millions of people. I was in awe of that child. I was channel surfing when he caught my attention. I have one of the little books that he wrote.
http://www.mattieonline.com/
I think that some people who have the worst assignments in this life were souls that chose to be our teachers. Little Mattie taught many people. Maybe even the homeless drunk laying on the street corner is one of our teachers.
Maybe all the challenging things that are going on here and around the world are classes we all are taking. Opportunities that challenge our souls. Maybe we're being graded on how we respond, whether we're in it for just ourselves or whether we care about humanity and our planet home. Kind of a scary thought, huh? Just maybe...God is watching us.
The video I picked was a little on the "religious" side. Didn't do that on purpose. It has several pics of Jesus in it but...I like the guy. He was a good man. His message..love and tolerance. I don't think we can go wrong with adopting either of those concepts.
Hope you enjoyed you warmer day today Coreen. It's warmer here but dreary. My camp yard got it's first hair cut. The neighbor did it. The grass was so high that the birds couldn't find the seed that I put on the ground for the ground feeders.
Saw an article about GWB and his painting, I think he's quite talented. He was standing in front of a couple of paintings of dogs. They were good.
I'd be one who would like to have a coke with George. I wouldn't want to talk politics but would enjoy talking painting, brush clearing, and dogs. I think he has a good sense of humor. I'd probably enjoy visiting with Laura also. When she was young she was a chain smoking liberal.
Hey, I don't blame George for much of what was done during his presidency. I blame the Supremes and the voters for putting him in office. I really don't think he was making any of the decisions. He just got the play with the big boy toys.
Jan, I did wake up in the wee hours and remembered a little of my dream. I don't usually even remember dreaming. I purposely went over it in my head so I would remember it. There was not much that felt significant about it but I wanted to remember it anyway. Mom was in it. Dreaming about her is significant.
My dream had C2C involved in it because I was listening to it when I fell asleep and it was still going when I woke up with the dream. If I fall asleep with the TV on, whatever is showing usually will influence my dream. I watch a lot of true crime dramas and wake up having a nightmare where someone is after me. I've quit watching those before bedtime.
I don't follow any of the rules for healthy sleeping. Sleep is just not that important to me. If I'm really craving sleep, I'm usually depressed and just trying to use it to escape.
I've had a couple of C2C programs that I want to listen to but I can't stay awake for more than a few minutes. Last night's program was on ESP and some other parapsychology issues. The other program that I've been trying to listen to is about the aparition of Mary in Fatima. Tried about three times and still haven't heard it. I may not want to hear that one. It kinda sounded like it might be frightening.
I got a notification that my Red Book has shipped. I ordered it from Walmart. It was cheaper than Amazon and I didn't have to pay shipping because I will pick it up at the store when it comes in. They will text me when it gets in.
Carol, The Big Bang episode is on where Sheldon gets fired and goes on these binges where he starts making fish that glow and weaving sarapes. It is too funny. Have you seen that one yet? Howard calls Sheldon's mother. She is a stitch.
I guess I scared y'all with yesterday's ponder. I'm not asking you to buy it. It's just my attempt to make some sense of this crazy existance. I haven't completely fleshed out what I think is true but trying on a few ideas.
After 62 years of studying life, and seeing how utterly amazing it can be, how beautiful it can be, I can't settle for shit happens. I won't settle for it. Until my dying day, I will continue to try to make sense of it.
Jan, I didn't even make it through all 6 of the Big Bangs that were on last night. I fell asleep and just woke up. I missed the episode about the glowing fish, darn it.
Jan, I think that Red Book represents Jung's search for his soul. I read that he was interested in psychosis so maybe he dipped into to some to see if there were any answers there.
"Carl Jung was a giant in the dawn of the age of psychoanalysis. A student of Freud who broke with Freud. Champion of the individual spiritual quest as doorway to the universal.
In midlife, he looked for his own soul and found nothing. Dug deeper, for years, late at night, recording wild visions: gods and demons, winged snakes and crocodiles. Found his soul’s footing, but feared he’d be called insane.
Jung said his “red book,” in which he recorded his visions, was the base of everything else he did. But it was locked away for years in a Swiss vault. Now it’s out. We have it."
Yep, it seems he took a little trip to insanity to figure out life. He was also driven to Understand it. Reading his work there can save me a trip.
Wasn't it he who came up with the concept of synchronicity that I'm so fascinated with?
Most people are satified with just living life, I yearn to understand it. Some people don't have the time to do more than just live and/or survive life. And some people who do have the time, might just prefer to drink beer.
In 2009, the Red Book was the number 3 best seller on Amazon, even at the high price.
Some people, probably more than not, think I'm a little off the beam. Some people around my parts would think that anyone who listens to more than 30 minutes of news a day is off and anyone who would spend time on a political blog are definitely off. So, you are a member of my club, like it or not.
Carol, so happy you have looked up all this info on Jung. We have been studying him for 2 years. We have a book collection about him. I am tickled that we can talk about him.
He had a most interesting personal life too. He was the son of a minister in Switzerland. He talked about himself as almost having 2 lives as a child and adolescent. He married and had children. He had sexual relationships with a couple of his patients and even brought one home to live with him and his wife. His later years he visited several places including a Pueblo in NM. He talks about visiting with the medicine man there.
yes, synchronicity is a word invented by Jung. The Myers Briggs personality inventory is based on his work. Almost all of the books about dreams are based on his writings.
I've finally caught here too. So much to do after vacation... that mountain of laundry... a big grocery shopping after trying to leave with as little as possible still in the frig. Emails that must be answered. Elderly parents (Rick's) that must be looked after. Plus Rick had to go look in on his brother's house... he's on a 2 week business trip to China.
I did take some pictures... I will get Rick to show me how to upload them to your email, Carol... either tomorrow or Tues.
Carol... don't ever worry about giving me medical advice. It's your specialty... and I know you specialized in diabetes. I actually appreciate it and realize you just want the best for me.
Calling you "Mama Carol" was just a tease. I tease people I really like.
As for the ponder of this weekend about choosing what happens to us in this life in a former life.... that's the kind of stuff that made me leave the new age community. IMO, that's a convenient way of saying one's behavior isn't really one's own fault.... to which I say bullshit.
As an adult, if I say (type) it... or I do it... I take responsibility.... simple as that.
Jan... glad you made it home and had a good time at your dream intensive.
Coreen... the weather man lied. We didn't get so much as a snowflake up north. But when we got home yesterday, we got a surprise.... instead of the 3-4 inches of snow predicted, we got a foot. Thank the universe we were already plowed out.
Carol... I love your posts about the medical system. I think us baby boomers have a different attitude than our parents... they thought doctors were gods... we know they are human. I always do my own investigation into anything my doctor tells or prescribes for me.
Renee, it only lets you off the hook if you chose for it to and people who chose that option will find any excuse to use it.
I could have chosen to not do anything with what was presented to me, not go into nursing, not pursue all the careers within nursing, not take care of my mom, etc. I didn't and I put everything I had into what was presented for me to do.
Carol... how people choose or don't choose is one of those age old questions.... and a fascinating one for me.
It's interesting that you and Jan have been discussing Jung. I just read Lawrence Wright's treatise on Scientology. The founder, L.Ron Hubbard, took Jung's theories and twisted them. IMO, he founded a cult and it's mostly based on Jung. Hubbard took Jung's theories to mean how to gain control over others instead of how to gain control over the self.
It just goes to show that anything can be used for good or bad... it's all a choice.
We liked Argo. It is a thriller although we knew what happened in the end. At the conclusion of the movie they showed pictures of the real people the movie was based on.
The interesting thing is that the U.S. had a lot to do with making the people and gov't in Iran so angry when they helped put the Shah in power. The Shah was a bad guy. He was not good to his people. I don't know if England, France and Canada had anything to do with putting the Shah in power too. The U.S. got all the blame for it when the Ayatollah Khomeni came into power. I do remember some of that all happening back in the late 1970's and early 1980's.
It is a movie worth seeing. We, in this country must look at how we have influenced other countries. We have blood on our hands.
It was this incident in Iran which made Carter a very unpopular president. He has certainly redeemed himself in many ways through the work he has done since being POTUS.
Renee, Interesting about Jung. I will have to do some reading about the Ron Hubbard thing, especially the treatise you mention by Lawrence Wright.
We have a big Scientology church less than a mile from us. I have known people who are Scientologists. Those I have known have been decent people. I need to do some studying of this.
It is almost 1 pm here. I don't like the time change. I feel I have lost half my day but have only lost one hour. Bummer. Need to get out and walk. I envy Arizona and Hawaii.
Jan... the highlights for me are always the hot tub and the restaurants. We live in an area where you have to travel a distance to get to a decent place to eat. We've owned this timeshare for 15 yrs and it's located in a resort town. There's the ski mountain... and it's at the head of one of the most traveled highways (the Kangamangus Highway) during the fall leaf peeping season. Google that highway... our timeshare is in the town of Lincoln.
I highly recommend Lawrence Wright's new book entitled : Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, & the Prison of Belief. He's a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist. The book is an eye opener.... and he took great pains to corroborate all his info and give the church's side in case they try to sue him.
Renee, your vacation sounds wonderful. My kind of vacation too.
I will check out the book by Wright. Know little about the Scientology movement.
Went over to TM for a few minutes to read the latest post. I am a fan of older music. I loved the song by Linda Ronstadt and the muppets - When I grow to old to dream. I remember that one. My dad sang it to me when I rode with him in the car. He did not like to talk when he was driving, but he would whistle and sing. Some of my favorite memories.
Daylight savings time is no big deal to me anymore, as is what time it is unless I have an appointment or there's something I want to watch on TV. I do want to feed my fur babies at the same time every day. Maggie lets me know when that is.
I set my phone to alarm me of anything I need to do on a certain day or time. I'm spoiled to that now.
Jan, I was pondering that you and I need to take a little trip up to the Northeast coast. I've been up that way only for conferences and didn't have any time to explore. We could fly up and rent a car. We could hook up with both Coreen and Renee.
Renee, the scientology book you read is by the author who wrote about a former member in the New Yorker ahwile ago (Paul Haggis, have no idea who is is but thought then how do these people become so entwined it it) still don't get it...
So far though no one has really been able to break it down...many try, but for some reason it still stands...
Guess the fascination in scient. is that some of the 'elite' are well known hollywood stars...& how the cult (& yes I think it is a cult not a religion, but hey that's just me) manages to get these types to be such supportive members...besides travolta, cruise, an actress from the sitcom 'king of queens'(can't remember her name) not to mention the former cnn/now fox 'star' greta ?, & not sure if kirstie is still a member...
any insights offered as to why these actor types are so open to the pitch...
Sort of remember the dianetics book hubbard wrote but thought it was gibberish then & Carol knows what I consider gibberish!...
But then I am likely much to cynical about most things...
The snow...Renee have you guys had enough snow...hoping that this last one was it for a long time...today it is still warm & sunny...even opened some windows to get a bit of fresh air...
Daylight savings...happy its here, since it will stay light longer...& spring is almost here...
Carol & Jan...a roadtrip with you two, now that's an interesting idea...
Jan... you and Carol would be very welcomed in my little corner of this planet. We visited your state many moons ago... we keep saying we want to go back. I LOVE New Mexico. The drive from Taos down to Angel Fire and back to Taos was spectacular... so wasn't the Turquoise Trail.
I did go with Rick on a business trip to New Orleans years ago too. Loved some kind of drink called a hurricane... also loved the pralines.... eating one now though would probably send me into sugar shock :)
Coreen.... I've had enough .... but Rick is sad that it's so warm and all his yummy skiing snow is melting.
Yeah.... the book opens with Paul Haggis' story. Like I said on TM... it's fascinating that we both read Dianetics at the same age (21)... he fell for it hook, line, and sinker... I thought it was trash.
IMO, there will never be a shortage of people who believe that kind of stuff. Snake oil salesmen have always existed... and there's alway plenty of customers looking for an easy way out of what ails them. PT Barnum was right.
I have no problem with consenting adults getting caught up in cults. But kids... that's a different story. Hubbard tried to get them young... like 12, 13, 14.... what he did amounted to child abuse. It's amazing to me he could and the church can now... get away with it. Same thing happens in Fundamentalist Mormonism.... they abuse kids. But it's tricky for the government to intervene when it's done in the name of "religion".
Coreen... yeah.... Greta Van Susteren... Kirtsie Alley, Travolta, Cruise... just a few of the big names into Scientology.
They court famous people. But they keep them away from seeing how the church is run day to day. It's very secretive... but many of the people who were high in the ranks, such as Paul Haggis have defected... they actually physically have to escape. I hope their stories will keep some troubled young people away from the abuse.
Coreen, thanks for posting the link for the piece in the New Yorker. I read the entire thing. Could not stop reading. That organization is scary. It is not a church.
I agree Renee, what they are doing to kids is absolutely slavery and child abuse. I frankly do not understand how the organization manages to escape the law.
We could do a get-together in your part of the world Coreen and Renee; then one here in NM and then finish in New Orleans. Remember progressive dinners - this could be a progressive vacation.
I couldn't find a Big Bang marrathon tonight. I had to go to CBS and find some that I hadn't seen. I saw the one where Seldon drank those Long Island Teas.
Those are potent drinks. I think they have about 5 kinds of liquer in them. It's no sweet tea. I went with a friend to dinner one night. She can usually hold her liquer. She had a couple of those drinks and was snockered. The people in Long Island must like their drinks stiff.
Wow Jan... you read all 26 pages of that article. You must be like me... that kind of thing fascinates me and once I start reading, I have a hard time to stop.
Carol... hopefully, I'll be emailing the pictures to you this afternoon. I have to wait for Rick to come home from skiing. He went to the local area where he has a season's pass. It's going to rain tomorrow and he wanted to get some skiing in before that. Once the area loses most of it's snow, they'll close up.... and that will probably be within the next 10 days.
Heard that Eliz Hasselback is getting booted off the View. Hmmm. Also Joy is supposed to be leaving. Rumor has it that she may be going back to CNN. I don't know how she can trust them. She had a pretty popular show there with good reviews and they booted her out.
Carol... I just tried to email you the promised photos... and your server rejected it. I don't know if I have the address correct.... thc1777@aol.com ... I can't tell if after the c is a numeral one or a small letter el.
Rick said it might be because aol filters a lot of stuff and the file might be too big. He's not sure.
Saw the pic Renee. Neat. I'd be afraid of hitting a moose. I'd be creeping down that road.
We can have deer run across the road here. One night I was coming home from working the evening shift as supervisor at the hospital. It was very foggy and I could barely see my hand in front of my face. I have some dark roads on my way home. All of a sudden I had this intense feeling to be very careful, there might be a deer crossing the road. I slowed down immediately. Seconds after I did, there was a cow standing in the middle of the road. It must have gotten out of one of the fields. It was just standing there chewing it's cud. That intense feeling saved both of our lives. I've had that kind of thing happen several times.
Renee, Carol, if you want, you can try my email, & I would post the pics...I have been able to do that for both Jan & Carol...it's up to you guys...coreenesq@sbcglobal.net
The email I sent to Coreen bounced too. Rick thinks I may have to send an email without the attachment first.... it may be a problem on my end not recognizing the emails.
I sent one with the pictures to him and it went through no problem.
Coreen... your email has bounced twice without the attachments. I got a message saying it wasn't a valid email. Sorry I'm such a Luddite. I'm going to relax and watch a Bruins hockey game now. I'll try again tomorrow.
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I have shared pictures before from Kanuga, but none with a snowfall.
I made my reservations for Ireland on computer last night. I got my return date wrong by one month. John found the error this morning. So had to cancel the reservation. So now to start over. Probably should not have done that at 10 pm when I am not at my best. I have e-mailed the leader of the journey and asked some very important questions before I make the flight reservations.
Carol, sounds like some great things you are having done to your camp. It could be that Maggie might get used to the banging over time.
Carol, I have noticed that about the moon also. You can count on the sun being where it is supposed to be, but not the moon.
Very nice views of a tranquil place Jan...I remember the lake with the cross on the other side...it looks so peaceful there...
And today, so far that's about as much snow as we have...dusting on the grass, but the roads/driveway
is wet...but the wind has not let up so cold...they pushed the snow
back a day, it was supposed to be
several inches already but!...still
saying 2-6", but hoping that whenever it starts we only get a little, or none...
I with Maggie about noise...when carpenters were working here, the
hammering made you want to just leave...
Hi Coreen, Hope your snow is only dusting. I don't like wind. One of reasons I left Oklahoma. Too much wind.
Neat pics Jan. Thanks for putting them up. Old Harry was very happy that he could take off. He missed out on a lot of fishing.
I just got back from Wally World. Just needed a few things. There are some things I just don't want to run out of. It's a neurosis.
There's a phenomena I experience when I go to Walmart. It's not in the grocery section but anytime I have to go to any other sections of the store, housewares, garden center, automotive supplies, etc. After a few minutes, I have this urgent desire to go to the bathroom. I'm usually about as far away as I can get from it when the attack hits me. I have to race walk back to the front of the store, park my buggy by a empty check out and attend to my need. I don't understand why it happens. Must be some smell or something.
I used to have the same problem when I went to any library or bookstore. The library could have been at school, at the hospital, or public library. Bookstores did the same thing, any bookstore. I usually started my book shopping close to the restrooms. I assumed it must be some allergy to a book smell.
I read the other day somewhere that some public official was arrested when he parked his buggy by the bathroom at Walmart to go use the bathroom. He just had some beer and something else in his buggy. He said that he was not aware that he couldn't pass the register. The story was a little sketchy. Maybe he is senstive to the same smell.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/16/dale-peterson-arrested_n_2702319.html
I'm always careful to park my basket on the store side of the registers before I go to the bathroom.
Carol, I have the same problem. Whenever I do any kind of shopping, this happens to me. It is very embarrassing. I don't know why this happens. It does not usually happen with grocery shopping but often does with other kinds of shopping. I have often thought that shopping may have a calming or relaxing effect.
Some sociologist should do some research on this phenomenon. I did not know that any one else experienced this.
Jan, it's more potent that Dulcolax, and much quicker also.
Our prodigal sons returneth to TM, Jack, Solar, Jax.
Jan, I think my response is some kind of allergic reaction. My colon is where I manifest many of my allergic responses.
With 2 friends providing care above & beyond to husbands with illnesses from which there is no
recovery...often wonder would or could I manage to do the same (with an elderly parent who so far is ok, but at anytime may require much more care)still not sure...Carol, you have passed the test with exceedingly high marks...have to say that some of thoughts expressed have crossed my mind on more than one occassion...
After the caregiving ends
NYC Mayor Bloomberg criticized by Planned Parenthood for new posters aimed at reducing teen pregnancy...
My view...the posters = reality check...so what's PP agenda...
Teen pregnancy posters drwa criticism
Coreen, mama had Hospice for at least 16 months. They provided her meds and came to check on her weekly. They tried to suggest to me that I back off giving her her meds. She no longer went to any docs or had any labs done. She was bedridden. We had her in a hospital bed in the living room.
Her type of cancer caused severe BP, fluid and electrolyte and blood sugar problems. I had my Bp cuff, my glucose monitor and my physical assessment skills. I was probably as good as any lab tests. I adjusted all her meds to deal with what I assessed was going on. She didn't talk much but she was still in there and probably as sharp as I was, maybe sharper. She still loved eating and we made sure that was exciting for her. I adjusted her insulin to keep her BS in a good range.
One day, I did tell her that it was totally up to her if she wanted to continue her meds. There were things about her existance that I wouldn't have tolerated but she was tough. I think that the most impressive thing that I ever saw with my mom was the way she handled the misery of dying.
She didn't indicate that she was ready to quit her meds so I continued them. She wasn't ready to go until she couldn't eat, then it was beam me up Scotty.
Since teen pregnancy and parenting have been the topic of my primary work and my research, I am ambivalent about the posters.
Where do I begin? I agree with PP that many teens who get pregnant are not happy about it and already feel shame. The posters will only increase that shame.
A big problem is that often the pregnancy is a result of coercion by the father when he wants to keep his "woman/girl" under his control.
My problem with the posters is that no one focuses on the father of the baby in these situations and a woman can only get pregnant approximately once a year and yet these FOB's (Fathers of these babies) can impregnate several young women in a short period of time.
So why in God's name don't we focus on the FOB's?
...or why doesn't Major Bloomberg focus on the FOB's?
I slept on this old curved sectional in the living room with her. I'm surprised I can stand up straight to this day but I only caught about 2 hours of sleep a night. I was wasting away with my hyperthyroidism. She watched me all the time and even though she no longer talked, she would frequently say.."you're a good girl Carol" She wasn't one to give many compliments even though I knew she was proud of me.
I think we should continue to have discourse about unplanned pregnancy in young women. I am saying unplanned because some older teens are actually married, have a source of income, are going to school and are good parents. I know because I work with these young women. So, I am greatly annoyed that the Mayor of NYC and the general public generalize about this.
BTW - in case people are not informed, late pregnancy and the early to mid 20's are biologically the best time for a woman to have a baby. Her eggs have not been exposed to many contaminants and she is much less likely to have a baby with birth defects and a baby who has Down's Syndrome and Autism. So my message out there to all people who are so f***** judgemental, do your research folks!
Carol, you are a wonderful daughter. Your mother was so lucky she had you. I am sure she is looking down on you and thanking you for all your devoted care of her.
It wasn't like I didn't do a little kvetching every once in a while, never around her, but I'll never regret a minute I spent taking care of her.
fathers of babies...looks like you may agree with none other than Geraldo Rivera...he harps on this
regularly...
"In terms of entitlements, I would seek to alter all social programs that reward bad behavior. No one reading this can deny that minority communities are often rejecting marriage so as not to infringe on various government benefits.
Fix it with what I call Geraldo’s law: there has to be a father’s name on every birth certificate. Dad will be responsible for his fair share of the child’s rearing. Federal programs should be crafted to encourage two parent families -- that’s not social engineering, that’s common sense."
Jan...unfortunately in urban communities particularly, teen pregnancy is all to common & perpetuates generations who can never rise from poverty...why is it judgmental, when the ads intent is to point out the real consequnces of the personal behavior...which most often are negative all around...
I couldn't have done that for years and years like some families of people with Alzheimer's have to do. I knew mom's time was limited.
Just heard on the news that our Senator Boustany, a physician, opposed universal background checks for gun purchases. Said it would be too much of a burden on the Fed government. I just sent him a letter that I was opposed to him. He's a Republicant.
Just wanted y'all to know in case I'm gunned down.
I filled out all the info and pushed send but the site never indicated that my message was sent. The site probably rejects any negative mail.
Tried to watch the national evening news. It just took a minute of watching Rant Paul to turn my stomach and turn the channel.
We need to sent Jodi Arias to Washington.
Oh, Rant is worried that Obama is going to use a drone to gun down some innocent person at a coffee house. I thought they favored having good guys with guns. Oh, the NRA doesn't make drones yet, do they.
Just kvetching Coreen. Aren't you sorry you introduced me to that word. Not good to teach an old dog...anything.
Coreen, I do know very well how teen pregnancy contributes to keeping these women and their children in poverty.
In the program I work with now, we are making a strong push for use of contraception that a woman does not have to depend on her memory or whether she has the money this month or 3 months from now to prevent pregnancy or depend on her sexual partner. We are pushing IUD's and the little tubes put in the arms to deliver the contraception.
Guess what, I just read on national news that New Mexico leads the nation in teen pregnancy. The major problem is in small towns that have one pharmacy and the teens do not want to go to that pharmacy to get their birth control because their auntie or someone they know works there.
What we need is accessible, free and effective birth control for teens. Teens are going to have sex. That is a fact.
The problem is that the right wingers and religious folks are preventing good sex education and accessible and free birth control in the schools. We do have programs that provide this BC but it is only in the larger cities and communities.
Coreen, thanks for putting up that info about Mayor Bloomberg and the posters. I like to know what is going on in the country. I sometimes miss the stuff going on in your part of the nation.
The biggest proportion of teen pregnancies are going on in the southern states - also known as the bible belt- but also here in NM where we have a good proportion of undocumented people and Native Americans who lack access and themselves live in abject poverty.
Jan, I looked to see if La was in the top 10 for teen pregnancies. Nope
States ranked by rates of pregnancy among women age 15-19 (pregnancies per thousand):
1.Nevada (113)
2.Arizona (104)
3.Mississippi (103)
4.New Mexico (103)
5.Texas (101)
6.Florida (97)
7.California (96)
8.Georgia (95)
9.North Carolina (95)
10.Arkansas (93)
Link
http://womensissues.about.com/od/datingandsex/a/TeenPregStates.htm
But not sure I understand this:
States ranked by rates of live births among women age 15-19 (births per thousand):
1. Mississippi (71)
2. Texas (69)
3. Arizona (67)
4. Arkansas (66)
5. New Mexico (66)
6. Georgia (63)
7. Louisiana (62)
8. Nevada (61)
9. Alabama (61)
10. Oklahoma (60)
Again, all that being said Jan, I find the PP statement denouncing Bloomberg's poster campaign to be disengenuous...shouldn't any
method that reaches the target audience & which may prove effective be tried (including shame if it has the needed effect)...especially in light of the fact that apparently the efforts so far have had no significant impact on this societal problem...
And if the article is accurate, Bloomberg's adm has tried to reduce teen pregnancies by mandating sex education & authorizing high school nurses to provide birth control...
As the article states it is important to 'send a strong message that teen pregnancy has consequences, and those consequences are extremely negative, life-altering & most often disproportionaetly borne by young women'....
I guess we aren't in the top ten in pregnancies but we have better prenatal care and more babies survive or less abortions??
So you like 'kvetching'!...what about 'schmoozing'...
By this definition..."To converse casually, especially in order to gain an advantage or make a social connection."
I guess I do like it.
I always thought that schmoozing was sucking up. Now I'm not really into that.
I don't like phony.
I don't like getting a compliment that I don't feel is sincere.
This Arias trial is making history. They have had her on the stand for 15 days. The two attorneys have asked her every question known to man and the jury still had 200 questions for her when they finished. Arizona allows the jury to question the defendant. After she answered those questions, the attorneys had a chance at her again. Then the jury was sending in more questions. By the time this is trial is finished, the jury will feel like they are related to her. I think there will be at least one juror that will find in favor of her. She's even gotten to ME.
Big Bang is hysterical. This even beats Modern Family.
That show needs to win a few more awards. It's killer.
I created a new soup, for me, for supper. It's a potato broccoli soup. Sauted some onions and a little garlic. Diced up potatoes, put them and some broccoli florets into some water, not too much, added seasoning. Cooked that down. Later I added cut up green onion tops. Cooked, stirred until it was slight green creamy soup. At the end, added some American cheese. Not too much. Ate two small bowls. It was good. After a little while I thought, I know what would make it even better. I got another bowl and added a dollop of sour cream. That did it.
I'm rewarding myself with a couple of Oreo cookies. I eat the white stuff out first, then the cookie. Like the cookie part best.
I was going to also make a salad to get my green stuff in but I was too full. Then I remembered that I had my daily allowance of vitamin A with my green broccoli. Only need a cup to get in the full good.
Now Coreen, am I schmoozing?
Jan, that's a neat pic of Jung's Redbook. Read anything in it?
The Redbook is a very large book - would qualify for a coffee table book. It has the most beautiful illustrations and I think Jung did them. I am going to order it from Amazon for John for our anniversary or a birthday. It is gorgeous. It is also expensive. But he's worth it.
I agree about Big Bang. It is my favorite TV show.
Big Bang has excellent technical people too.
Technical advisors.
I made soup for supper too. I made a white chicken bean chili.
or rather white bean chicken chili.
Just finished watching Idol. Almost all of my favorites made it to the top 10. One of my fav girls did not make it. I like the show better this year. They have cut out some of the sadness.
Nikki Minaj is interesting. I have grown to like her.
Proud of me today. I walked and swam both. I didn't work today. Made soup too.
After reading this review by N. Furlotti Phanes on Amazon, I want to have it also.
"I HAVE the Red Book and am in the process of reading it. It is beyond description! This truly unique book represents the personal journal one courageous man took into the dangerous realm of the unconscious in search of an understanding of himself and the structure of the human personality in general. In the process, Jung regained his soul which was lost in the contemporary malaise of spiritual alienation. Liber Novus, as the book is called, represents a prototype of the individuation process, which is seen as the universal form of individual development. Jung was a psychiatrist who worked with schizophrenics. He intuited that their fantasies held meaning important for their healing and saw that some of the fantasies corresponded to mythological motifs. This curiosity lead Jung to his own decision to drop beneath consciousness to explore the realm of these fantasies, the realm of the "dead". He did this without chemicals or inducers but through a process he called active imagination. An inner world opened up to him to explore, which he documented in his writings and paintings. The book itself is like a medieval manuscript created with great care. He worked on the book for 16 years, giving it to others to read and edit with the intention of it one day being published. Liber Novus is a book of wisdom and deserves to be studied. It invites the reader into the world of imagination--like the dream world. I have studied my dreams for years and the language is similar. It shows what we have to learn when we slow down and listen to the inner voices. I thank Jung for giving me a guide to the soul, or human personality--which ever language one prefers."
The program I heard about nde's reported that Jung had one and said he just didn't believe in God, he knew God.
I just ordered the book for pick up at Walmart.
And I am proud of you for swimming, walking and making your soup. I'm impressed that you could swim in the winter even inside of a building and in a heated pool. If it's not 102, it too cool for me in the winter. Now, that's not the same as in the summer here. 92 is kinda warm then.
I'm finding there are so many things that I can do that are as meaningful as going to work. And they are diverse and I'm pretty much in charge of what I do, when.
I planted my topsy turvy tomato. That's a trick to
do without breaking the stem. I like that I don't have to worry about stakes. That concept works here but I wouldn't have anywhere good to hang it at the house. Also transplanted my parsley. My green onions have seen their better days so I got some new ones. I just buy regular green onions at the grocery, use the tops and plant the bottom. I have a planter box here and at the house.
Posters for the fathers should read something like: planting your seed and getting a woman pregnant is no proof of your manhood, it's providing support for the mother and baby that will prove you are a real man.
Obama has often tried to push that idea, especially with the brothers.
Social services came to the jail often to do DNA to find the fathers. When they did, they were responsible for child support but if they didn't provide it, they went to jail or were already there to begin with. If not in jail, each time they got behind, they came to jail and if it was more than once, they had to stay longer. Kid's didn't get the money and taxpayers paid the dead beat dad's room and board while he hung out with the home boys in the dorms at jail. They just got farther behind.
They need to house these guys in a work camp where they have to go to work somewhere seven days a week, either their own job or find a minumun wage job. Their salary should be confiscated and divided, part for child support and the other to cover their room and board. Accomodations should be sparce. No good food or sitting around watching TV or playing cards. They serve their time that way and then are released.
Most of those guy in the jail have no problems being there. They have three squares a day,room service, hang out with friends, watch TV, get the best health care they have ever had. Mamas and girlfriends put money on their books to buy junk food. They make their prison gourmet meals by contributing each of their stuff to the pool. The results are called hook ups. They sound gross to me but it luxury to them.
That prison commissary was big business at the jail and is at all of them, I'm sure. The families came in and poured money into this machine they finally put in to collect it. I'm sure the products were the cheapest shit they could find, marked up as high as they could. Ramen noodles was a big seller. That was one of the basics for most hookups. The inmates told me they were very much higher than what they were on the streets.
There were a lot of canned seafood stuff, most likely made in God only knows where. I looked to see if there was anything healthy that they could buy.... NOT. I had to include what they should avoid in the commissary in my teaching. I'm almost positive there were things that they used there that were responsible for some of these mystery rashes many had. I know I identified some totally new skin disorders. If I could have proved it, I could have a lot of new rashes named after me...ie, Carol's eczema, Carol's dermititis of unknown origin, Carol's skin rot, etc.
I acquired a specialty in dermatology working in corrections. One day, I'm going to gross you all out and put some of the pics that I have on iPhoney, as a post. Some of those pics I took so I could get some help with them. I got no help. There was a Derm who did some work at the charity hospital that I worked for. I was provided to the jail by that hospital to keep most of them out of there. I couldn't get any help from him but I'm not sure if he even knew that I was trying. They had people that intervened to keep me from talking to him.
I spent an entire lunch break trying to get in touch with him once. I got so close. After begging, they finally said they would get him on the phone. My effing phone dropped the damn call. When I called back they said...too late. I almost cried. It was a guy who had laid in a red ant pile when he was being arrested. He was a solid pustule from almost one end to the other. It was about the same as having a severe burn. I was on my own. Thank God he was tough. Everything came out OK because God was on my side, dang it. God never let me down. She sent me help from above constantly. She would clue me in that there was something going on when there weren't even signs of it. It spooked me at times. If I would have started that job as a non-believer, I certainly would have converted somewhere during my time there! She finally told me..Carol, it's time to leave. They don't deserve you! I knew it was a sign!
The only thing I'm sorry about is that I feel that I deserted my inmate patients there. I pray that they will be OK. I'm sure they will, they are a very tough breed. It would probably be close to impossible to kill most of them.
God gave me the most interesting assignments during my career. Never a dull moment. Phew, I hope that I can survive all the trauma they caused me.
One thing that often broke my heart was seeing some crippled up old lady come in to put money on her cocky ass son's books. She probably worked her old fingers to the bone to make that money while her son enjoyed the home boy's club. They even told their families lies to get more money. They would tell their families that I was charging for something they needed. Found that out by accident many times.
Jan, I took this from the Jung book review that I posted above.
"It shows what we have to learn when we slow down and listen to the inner voices."
(whispering) I'm now at that place in life. I've slowed down and I'm listening.
I start my morning in quiet, looking at the sun rising up over the river. Well, I start it quite a bit before the old sun get's out of bed.
It was NO accident that you posted a pic of that book. It was calling to me to get it. Thank you.
Happy Friday everyone. Everyday for me is Saturday. Hallelujah. Can I get an Amen here.
Celine Dion & The Canadian Tenors - Hallelujah
Carol, I am touched that you ordered the Red Book. I know you will love it. I have not ordered it yet but think now I will go ahead and order it.
I loved what Jung said about schizophrenics. There is another Jung book that is good - mucho cheaper. It is Memories, Dreams and Reflections. It is a bio of Jung. You would be amazed how many books there are that are about or by Jung.
If you are getting into your dreams and active imagination, there is another book that I love and it is so easy to read. It is Inner Work by Robert Johnson. Can get it at Amazon - it is paper back and not expensive. Johnson is dead now but he is also a follower of Jung.
Love what you said about FOB's. Yes, they should not be in jail. I too believe there should be a work system to get them to pay for their children.
The singer/songwriter who wrote Hallelujah is Leonard Cohen. He lives in Canada and has written lots more.
Our dream group at Kanuga adopted a phrase in one the songs by L. Cohen. It goes like this:
"Ring the bells that still can ring. Forget your perfect offering. There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
I love that. One of the people in our group put that on a small card. and tied a little bell (jingle bell) to the card and we gave the cards to all the others in different groups at our graduation ceremony (which essentially was an Episcopal church service with a Eucharist (Communion). It was a lovely service. We all participated.
What that phrase by Cohen meant to me is that "it is the cracks or the imperfections in life that are the most meaningful. It is those failures or mistakes we make in life that bring us the greatest meaning - or that make us truly human." These are the things that help make connections other humans.
I think about all your work in Corrections and with people who have made so many mistakes in life. That is why they are there. You have such strong feelings for these people. They are some of the most vulnerable in our country. In working with them you have learned so much about yourself - and human nature. That really comes out in your writings and stories you tell about your work with them.
It is great that you are having the time now to reflect about all this. You are moving/have moved into another stage or phase of your life.
Thinking of that phrase by Cohen. A story about the early quilters in this country that I read about years ago. When a woman made a quilt, she made sure there was an imperfection in it somewhere, that was noticeable. This is because, only God is perfect.
Thanks for your insight Jan. And thanks for your intro to the Redbook. I can't wait to get it.
I just heard that there's a small town in Georgia they are trying to make a law to require that every household has a gun. What kind of freedom is that?? Worse than going into those homes and taking their guns.
Nelson, Georgia mandatory gun ownership: Town may soon require every homeowner to carry firearm
What if there's one sane person who lives in that town? What will they do?
Jan, if I made a quilt, I wouldn't have to work on creating an imperfection. Pretty much everything I do has many imperfections and I don't even have to work at it. I'm gifted in that way. LOL
Like Jung appreciated studying his schizophrenics, I always paid close attention to my psychotics and what they said. I thought that maybe they were speaking in codes and I might be able to break it and learn something. You never know..
I had a dream last night that I want to tell about. In my dream, my dad and I are driving somewhere on a narrow paved road. We come to a hairpin curve in the road going left and then go over a little wooden bridge and then turn right. We get out of the car because I have to open a gate to get to the other side. I have a small paper card that I put up to a place in the top of the gate. The card has a code on it that will be scanned at the gate. After that I know I must put this metal piece that fits into another metal piece on the gate to get the gate to open. But when I put the paper card up to the scanner, the card catches fire and I know we won't be able to get through the gate. There are a couple of people behind me waiting, but behind them is a man in a white uniform. I recognize he is a delivery person and he tells me that when he goes through the gate, we can go through also. That is the end of the dream.
I have been thinking a lot about this dream and it reminds me of my dad. There are several ways I can think about this dream. One is that yesterday morning I was very upset about the fact that I made an error in trying to book my airline flight and had to cancel it. John was the one who found the error.
My dad told us girls, my sister and I, that we needed to marry because we needed a man to take care of us.
I remember also that when I was about 4 or 5 I went to work with my dad one day. He had a milk route at that time and I think he wore a white uniform.
Somehow I think there is a connection to my making flight arrangements for myself and failing at it somehow.
I need to go ahead and make the arrangements myself again as I felt like a failure yesterday. It is sort of like "getting on the horse again."
I'm now spending hours in the morning quietly pondering/meditating. No noise except the birds singing.
Thinking about my dream, Jung said that every person in the dream is "you" the dreamer. Men represent my masculine side of which there are 2 men in my dream. I think of my dad as a critical parent. One whom I do not like to fail. The other man is young, dressed in white and friendly and is helpful. So, this is a dream I will work on for a few days.
I do believe the dream is telling me that it is ok to fail at something, I can accept help without feeling like a failure and to go back and try again at whatever I have failed. Making that reservation for a flight is a masculine activity.
How can Georgia require that every household own a gun. That has got to be the ultimate in stupid laws.
Dang if you don't make a few mistakes trying to do that kind of complex task, you would probably qualify for a diagnosis of obsessive compulsive disorder. Thank God you're normal.
Carol, ponder away.
Yes, Jung also says in writings that meditation helps us get in touch with our active imagination and our dreams.
Or just maybe I will go out to the airport and to Amer Airlines and have them make my reservation. They wear uniforms too. Maybe that is what my dream is saying. Make it easy on yourself. You don't have to do it the hard way. He he.
By the way, my dad retired after 25 years with Amer Airlines.
Just keep your eyes peeled for a guy in a white uniform. He's there to help and you can just hope that he's HOT.
No Carol, I am probably "abby normal" Do you remember that part in Young Frankenstein where they are looking at brains in jars. They go down the shelf of brains in jars and see different people's names on the jars and they come to one that says "normal" and then to one that says "abby normal." That was such a funny movie.
Enjoyed our visit Carol. Just like old times except we are miles away from each other.
Off for a walk. This is when I meditate.
Yea, used that line all the time
Same here.
Nice, you are planting topsy turvys & I'm looking at snow & more snow!...haven't even opened the garage to see how much yet, at least 8" & still snowing...did manage to throw seed out the windows again & can get out the front door...
O my gosh Coreen, all that snow. I guess you are snowed in. I hope you have some good books. Glad you have your generator and can get online.
as for guy in white uniform being HOT. Never even consider that now. I like it when they are friendly and if I need something from them that they are helpful. Don't care about HOT any more - except in my dreams. LOL I actually have great dreams about guys who are hot.
Took yesterday off, so need to go out and see what is going on at work. It has been a slow week, no appts.
I don't think Coreen is on generator Jan. Maybe later.
Jan, when I can remember them, I still have some hot dreams...but in them, I'm still a bone healthy girl.
If there's nothing to do at work Jan, why do you have to go in?? Just for shits and giggles??
Coreen, yesterday I kept watching your weather and waiting for that snow to blast ya. Every time I checked it just said "overcast". Then I look away for a little while and all hell breaks loose.
Is it still snowing? Did you prepare?
They kept moving the storm back...it started last evening & just about stopped...since it was warm it seems to have compressed on the blacktop streets but piled up in the grass...
wound up with
5-7" in the driveway but 10" on the grass...the driveway is plowed & the streets, but again the birds
& deer can't get to the ground...cleared a path in 2 places in the grass for them...it really needs to warm up a lot so it all melts fast, the animals are
suffering not being able to get to the ground for food...
Oh haven't needed gen power, no power failures thankfully...
Haven't figured out how you guys
remember dreams...if I have them I honestly have no recollection of them...
Coreen, remembering dreams takes some discipline. I usually remember them immediately after I wake up and before I get out of bed. Some people keep a pad and pencil beside their bed and write the dreams before getting out of bed. When I first wake up and remember I had a dream. I lay in bed for a few minutes and work at remembering and reviewing the dream. I can then get up and do my usual activities (hint hint) and then get my dream journal and write my dream. The process of writing what I remembered and reviewed a short time before helps me to remember more details especially feeling sort of things and details like "the road turned left or right."
We have many dreams while we are sleeping and in REM phase of sleep. We go in and out of REM sleep all through the night. My dreams seem to be in the last minutes of sleep before I wake. If I am not sleeping well I don't remember my dreams, so I think my REM sleep is disturbed at those times.
Coreen, so glad you have not lost power.
We have had some rain in the last hour. It is so nice to have some rain. So dry here- unusually dry.
We would gladly take 8 inches of snow here. Need the moisture so badly.
Hmm Carol. I guess I did go into work for shits and giggles. Ha ha ha. After being away for a full day, just want to check for any mail or things that need to be done before the weekend.
I just finished a fine dinner. I grilled up one of those filets. I could only eat half of it and Maggie had almost half of the part eaten. I think she could have finished it off but she didn't get that opportunity. She already had her dinner before the steak. I don't eat steak very often but when I do, it's a filet. I want something that melts in my mouth and it certainly did that.
I also sauted some asparagus but no room for that. I just can't eat much at one time but I do eat often.
Coreen, weather underground says it is going to get to 50 and sunny tomorrow there. Is that true? That will be a heat wave for ya.
Looking back on some of what we talked about yesterday had me pondering. So much of what we do in this life were assignments we were given. We didn't exactly choose them. To a certain extent we chose whether we would accept those assignments but that's even iffy.
That job at the jail chose me. The CEO at the hospital that hired me heard from someone that I would be someone who would be a good choice for that job because of my previous experiences. They called me. I had recently left that old doc who I was working for because he wanted me to stop educating my patients at the prison when I provided the medical care for them. I had only gone back to work for him under strict conditions.
Think back on your life and ask yourself, did I chose that or did it chose me? Did you choose to marry an abusive man? Did you choose to be born to parents who worked hard and raised you right?
Even my career in nursing wasn't of my choosing. It was mom's choice. I chose to accept the assignment.
When we have elderly or dying parents, did we chose that assignment? If we end up having to raise children later in life, did we chose that? We chose not to ditch those assignments but we didn't exactly think...boy I can't wait to be given that assignment.
Many, who I took care of in my corrections experience, didn't exactly chose all those assignments either.
Look back on your life and see how many things that happened were totally your choice and your choice alone.
After pondering the above, it may be easier to be a little more sympathetic to yourself and others.
We may have chosen some of those situations and experiences but I don't think it was in this lifetime. Could be our souls chose them because those experiences would provide opportunities for our souls to evolve.
I've often pondered why some people were given such miserable existances like a little child born with some awful condition. One who comes to mind is little Mattie Stepanek. Did you ever meet him? I saw him on Oprah's show. He had some chronic debilitating condition and he died at a very young age but he accomplished so much before he died. He inspired millions of people. I was in awe of that child. I was channel surfing when he caught my attention. I have one of the little books that he wrote.
http://www.mattieonline.com/
I think that some people who have the worst assignments in this life were souls that chose to be our teachers. Little Mattie taught many people. Maybe even the homeless drunk laying on the street corner is one of our teachers.
Just a ponder. Can't prove it one way or another.
Maybe all the challenging things that are going on here and around the world are classes we all are taking. Opportunities that challenge our souls. Maybe we're being graded on how we respond, whether we're in it for just ourselves or whether we care about humanity and our planet home. Kind of a scary thought, huh?
Just maybe...God is watching us.
From a Distance
The video I picked was a little on the "religious" side. Didn't do that on purpose. It has several pics of Jesus in it but...I like the guy. He was a good man. His message..love and tolerance. I don't think we can go wrong with adopting either of those concepts.
Yes Carol its about 50 sunny & feels like summer!...but back to square one with the snowcover...
lots of melting today, hope it keeps up & finally spring will take hold...
Hope you enjoyed you warmer day today Coreen. It's warmer here but dreary. My camp yard got it's first hair cut. The neighbor did it. The grass was so high that the birds couldn't find the seed that I put on the ground for the ground feeders.
Saw an article about GWB and his painting, I think he's quite talented. He was standing in front of a couple of paintings of dogs. They were good.
I'd be one who would like to have a coke with George. I wouldn't want to talk politics but would enjoy talking painting, brush clearing, and dogs. I think he has a good sense of humor. I'd probably enjoy visiting with Laura also. When she was young she was a chain smoking liberal.
Hey, I don't blame George for much of what was done during his presidency. I blame the Supremes and the voters for putting him in office. I really don't think he was making any of the decisions. He just got the play with the big boy toys.
George's painting
Jan, I did wake up in the wee hours and remembered a little of my dream. I don't usually even remember dreaming. I purposely went over it in my head so I would remember it. There was not much that felt significant about it but I wanted to remember it anyway. Mom was in it. Dreaming about her is significant.
My dream had C2C involved in it because I was listening to it when I fell asleep and it was still going when I woke up with the dream. If I fall asleep with the TV on, whatever is showing usually will influence my dream. I watch a lot of true crime dramas and wake up having a nightmare where someone is after me. I've quit watching those before bedtime.
I don't follow any of the rules for healthy sleeping. Sleep is just not that important to me. If I'm really craving sleep, I'm usually depressed and just trying to use it to escape.
I've had a couple of C2C programs that I want to listen to but I can't stay awake for more than a few minutes. Last night's program was on ESP and some other parapsychology issues. The other program that I've been trying to listen to is about the aparition of Mary in Fatima. Tried about three times and still haven't heard it. I may not want to hear that one. It kinda sounded like it might be frightening.
I got a notification that my Red Book has shipped. I ordered it from Walmart. It was cheaper than Amazon and I didn't have to pay shipping because I will pick it up at the store when it comes in. They will text me when it gets in.
At 7p there's another Big Bang marathon on TBS. I'm ready for a laugh fest. I'm stretching my laugh muscles now.
Carol, glad to hear about your Red Book.
We went to the movies and saw Argo. Now home and watching Big Bang.
Carol, The Big Bang episode is on where Sheldon gets fired and goes on these binges where he starts making fish that glow and weaving sarapes. It is too funny. Have you seen that one yet? Howard calls Sheldon's mother. She is a stitch.
Not Howard - Leonard calls her.
I guess I scared y'all with yesterday's ponder. I'm not asking you to buy it. It's just my attempt to make some sense of this crazy existance. I haven't completely fleshed out what I think is true but trying on a few ideas.
After 62 years of studying life, and seeing how utterly amazing it can be, how beautiful it can be, I can't settle for shit happens. I won't settle for it. Until my dying day, I will continue to try to make sense of it.
Jan, I didn't even make it through all 6 of the Big Bangs that were on last night. I fell asleep and just woke up. I missed the episode about the glowing fish, darn it.
You didn't mention what you thought of Argo??
Yesterday evening they were in rare form on the Trail. I love it when they get that way. Almost as good as an episode of Big Bang.
If some of my ideas scare ya, don't read any of Shirley MacLaine's books.
Jan, I think that Red Book represents Jung's search for his soul. I read that he was interested in psychosis so maybe he dipped into to some to see if there were any answers there.
"Carl Jung was a giant in the dawn of the age of psychoanalysis. A student of Freud who broke with Freud. Champion of the individual spiritual quest as doorway to the universal.
In midlife, he looked for his own soul and found nothing. Dug deeper, for years, late at night, recording wild visions: gods and demons, winged snakes and crocodiles. Found his soul’s footing, but feared he’d be called insane.
Jung said his “red book,” in which he recorded his visions, was the base of everything else he did. But it was locked away for years in a Swiss vault. Now it’s out. We have it."
Yep, it seems he took a little trip to insanity to figure out life. He was also driven to Understand it. Reading his work there can save me a trip.
Wasn't it he who came up with the concept of synchronicity that I'm so fascinated with?
Most people are satified with just living life, I yearn to understand it. Some people don't have the time to do more than just live and/or survive life. And some people who do have the time, might just prefer to drink beer.
That book was hidden away in a vault for many years. He didn't think man was ready for this information. Here's an NPR radio show talking about it:
Carl Jung's Secret Book
In 2009, the Red Book was the number 3 best seller on Amazon, even at the high price.
Some people, probably more than not, think I'm a little off the beam. Some people around my parts would think that anyone who listens to more than 30 minutes of news a day is off and anyone who would spend time on a political blog are definitely off. So, you are a member of my club, like it or not.
Trailmix is even more entertaining than usual today. Craig started out with a good opening post. It can't help but be good after that.
There's a entire series of lectures online about Jung's Red Book.
gnosis.org/redbook/
Carol, so happy you have looked up all this info on Jung. We have been studying him for 2 years. We have a book collection about him. I am tickled that we can talk about him.
He had a most interesting personal life too. He was the son of a minister in Switzerland. He talked about himself as almost having 2 lives as a child and adolescent. He married and had children. He had sexual relationships with a couple of his patients and even brought one home to live with him and his wife. His later years he visited several places including a Pueblo in NM. He talks about visiting with the medicine man there.
yes, synchronicity is a word invented by Jung. The Myers Briggs personality inventory is based on his work. Almost all of the books about dreams are based on his writings.
Jung went so deep into his own unconscious that some people might think he was psychotic yet he was able to stay in touch with reality.
Went over to TM and read today's post. I love the term Xtreme Maturity.
I found some of the terms for us funny. How about young old and old old. Wonder where I fit in those.
I've finally caught here too. So much to do after vacation... that mountain of laundry... a big grocery shopping after trying to leave with as little as possible still in the frig. Emails that must be answered. Elderly parents (Rick's) that must be looked after. Plus Rick had to go look in on his brother's house... he's on a 2 week business trip to China.
I did take some pictures... I will get Rick to show me how to upload them to your email, Carol... either tomorrow or Tues.
Carol... don't ever worry about giving me medical advice. It's your specialty... and I know you specialized in diabetes. I actually appreciate it and realize you just want the best for me.
Calling you "Mama Carol" was just a tease. I tease people I really like.
As for the ponder of this weekend about choosing what happens to us in this life in a former life.... that's the kind of stuff that made me leave the new age community. IMO, that's a convenient way of saying one's behavior isn't really one's own fault.... to which I say bullshit.
As an adult, if I say (type) it... or I do it... I take responsibility.... simple as that.
Jan... glad you made it home and had a good time at your dream intensive.
Coreen... the weather man lied. We didn't get so much as a snowflake up north. But when we got home yesterday, we got a surprise.... instead of the 3-4 inches of snow predicted, we got a foot. Thank the universe we were already plowed out.
Carol... I love your posts about the medical system. I think us baby boomers have a different attitude than our parents... they thought doctors were gods... we know they are human. I always do my own investigation into anything my doctor tells or prescribes for me.
Renee, it only lets you off the hook if you chose for it to and people who chose that option will find any excuse to use it.
I could have chosen to not do anything with what was presented to me, not go into nursing, not pursue all the careers within nursing, not take care of my mom, etc. I didn't and I put everything I had into what was presented for me to do.
Carol... how people choose or don't choose is one of those age old questions.... and a fascinating one for me.
It's interesting that you and Jan have been discussing Jung. I just read Lawrence Wright's treatise on Scientology. The founder, L.Ron Hubbard, took Jung's theories and twisted them. IMO, he founded a cult and it's mostly based on Jung. Hubbard took Jung's theories to mean how to gain control over others instead of how to gain control over the self.
It just goes to show that anything can be used for good or bad... it's all a choice.
We liked Argo. It is a thriller although we knew what happened in the end. At the conclusion of the movie they showed pictures of the real people the movie was based on.
The interesting thing is that the U.S. had a lot to do with making the people and gov't in Iran so angry when they helped put the Shah in power. The Shah was a bad guy. He was not good to his people. I don't know if England, France and Canada had anything to do with putting the Shah in power too. The U.S. got all the blame for it when the Ayatollah Khomeni came into power. I do remember some of that all happening back in the late 1970's and early 1980's.
It is a movie worth seeing. We, in this country must look at how we have influenced other countries. We have blood on our hands.
It was this incident in Iran which made Carter a very unpopular president. He has certainly redeemed himself in many ways through the work he has done since being POTUS.
Welcome back Renee. I saw you were back on TM. I don't say anything but I keep up with the posts and comments.
What were some high points of your vacation?
Renee, Interesting about Jung. I will have to do some reading about the Ron Hubbard thing, especially the treatise you mention by Lawrence Wright.
We have a big Scientology church less than a mile from us. I have known people who are Scientologists. Those I have known have been decent people. I need to do some studying of this.
It is almost 1 pm here. I don't like the time change. I feel I have lost half my day but have only lost one hour. Bummer. Need to get out and walk. I envy Arizona and Hawaii.
Jan...
the highlights for me are always the hot tub and the restaurants. We live in an area where you have to travel a distance to get to a decent place to eat. We've owned this timeshare for 15 yrs and it's located in a resort town. There's the ski mountain... and it's at the head of one of the most traveled highways (the Kangamangus Highway) during the fall leaf peeping season. Google that highway... our timeshare is in the town of Lincoln.
I highly recommend Lawrence Wright's new book entitled : Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, & the Prison of Belief. He's a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist. The book is an eye opener.... and he took great pains to corroborate all his info and give the church's side in case they try to sue him.
Renee, your vacation sounds wonderful. My kind of vacation too.
I will check out the book by Wright. Know little about the Scientology movement.
Went over to TM for a few minutes to read the latest post. I am a fan of older music. I loved the song by Linda Ronstadt and the muppets - When I grow to old to dream. I remember that one. My dad sang it to me when I rode with him in the car. He did not like to talk when he was driving, but he would whistle and sing. Some of my favorite memories.
Renee, the Kanc highway is one I will add to my bucket list. I have never visited NH. I am making my list. Thanks for sharing.
Daylight savings time is no big deal to me anymore, as is what time it is unless I have an appointment or there's something I want to watch on TV. I do want to feed my fur babies at the same time every day. Maggie lets me know when that is.
I set my phone to alarm me of anything I need to do on a certain day or time. I'm spoiled to that now.
Jan, I was pondering that you and I need to take a little trip up to the Northeast coast. I've been up that way only for conferences and didn't have any time to explore. We could fly up and rent a car. We could hook up with both Coreen and Renee.
Carol, sounds delightful. Lets do it.
Fall would be a great time to go.
As long as there is no snow in the forecast. I'd rather just see it in y'all's pics.
Renee, the scientology book you read is by the author who wrote about a former member in the New Yorker ahwile ago (Paul Haggis, have no idea who is is but thought then how do these people become so entwined it it) still don't get it...
So far though no one has really been able to break it down...many try, but for some reason it still stands...
Guess the fascination in scient. is that some of the 'elite' are well known hollywood stars...& how the cult (& yes I think it is a cult not a religion, but hey that's just me) manages to get these types to be such supportive members...besides travolta, cruise,
an actress from the sitcom 'king of queens'(can't remember her name) not to mention the former cnn/now fox 'star' greta ?, & not sure if kirstie is still a member...
any insights offered as to why these actor types are so open to the pitch...
Sort of remember the dianetics book hubbard wrote but thought it was gibberish then & Carol knows what I consider gibberish!...
But then I am likely much to cynical about most things...
Here's the New Yorker piece...
The Apostate, Paul Haggis v. Church of Scientology
The snow...Renee have you guys had enough snow...hoping that this last one was it for a long time...today it is still warm & sunny...even opened some windows to get a bit of fresh air...
Daylight savings...happy its here, since it will stay light longer...& spring is almost here...
Carol & Jan...a roadtrip with you two, now that's an interesting idea...
Jan... you and Carol would be very welcomed in my little corner of this planet. We visited your state many moons ago... we keep saying we want to go back. I LOVE New Mexico. The drive from Taos down to Angel Fire and back to Taos was spectacular... so wasn't the Turquoise Trail.
I did go with Rick on a business trip to New Orleans years ago too. Loved some kind of drink called a hurricane... also loved the pralines.... eating one now though would probably send me into sugar shock :)
Coreen.... I've had enough .... but Rick is sad that it's so warm and all his yummy skiing snow is melting.
Yeah.... the book opens with Paul Haggis' story. Like I said on TM... it's fascinating that we both read Dianetics at the same age (21)... he fell for it hook, line, and sinker... I thought it was trash.
IMO, there will never be a shortage of people who believe that kind of stuff. Snake oil salesmen have always existed... and there's alway plenty of customers looking for an easy way out of what ails them. PT Barnum was right.
I have no problem with consenting adults getting caught up in cults. But kids... that's a different story. Hubbard tried to get them young... like 12, 13, 14.... what he did amounted to child abuse. It's amazing to me he could and the church can now... get away with it. Same thing happens in Fundamentalist Mormonism.... they abuse kids. But it's tricky for the government to intervene when it's done in the name of "religion".
Coreen...
yeah.... Greta Van Susteren... Kirtsie Alley, Travolta, Cruise... just a few of the big names into Scientology.
They court famous people. But they keep them away from seeing how the church is run day to day. It's very secretive... but many of the people who were high in the ranks, such as Paul Haggis have defected... they actually physically have to escape. I hope their stories will keep some troubled young people away from the abuse.
Coreen, thanks for posting the link for the piece in the New Yorker. I read the entire thing. Could not stop reading. That organization is scary. It is not a church.
There is no doubt in my mind that is a cult - and a dangerous one at that.
I agree Renee, what they are doing to kids is absolutely slavery and child abuse. I frankly do not understand how the organization manages to escape the law.
We could do a get-together in your part of the world Coreen and Renee; then one here in NM and then finish in New Orleans. Remember progressive dinners - this could be a progressive vacation.
Sounds good Jan.
I couldn't find a Big Bang marrathon tonight. I had to go to CBS and find some that I hadn't seen. I saw the one where Seldon drank those Long Island Teas.
Those are potent drinks. I think they have about 5 kinds of liquer in them. It's no sweet tea. I went with a friend to dinner one night. She can usually hold her liquer. She had a couple of those drinks and was snockered. The people in Long Island must like their drinks stiff.
It’s National Napping Day. I’m planning on celebrating. I’d recommend that the rest of you do also. There are lots of benefits.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/nap-benefits-national-napping-day_n_2830952.html
Yesterday was sooo much fun on the Trail. It was a laugh fest. Today, it's back to kvetching. Not as much fun.
Wow Jan... you read all 26 pages of that article. You must be like me... that kind of thing fascinates me and once I start reading, I have a hard time to stop.
Carol... hopefully, I'll be emailing the pictures to you this afternoon. I have to wait for Rick to come home from skiing. He went to the local area where he has a season's pass. It's going to rain tomorrow and he wanted to get some skiing in before that. Once the area loses most of it's snow, they'll close up.... and that will probably be within the next 10 days.
Renee, we're going to be needing a new post soon. I hope I can do it from this laptop.
Heard that Eliz Hasselback is getting booted off the View. Hmmm. Also Joy is supposed to be leaving. Rumor has it that she may be going back to CNN. I don't know how she can trust them. She had a pretty popular show there with good reviews and they booted her out.
Well, just read that Babs said it wasn't true that Hasselbeck is leaving. I guess we can believe Babs.
Carol...
I just tried to email you the promised photos... and your server rejected it. I don't know if I have the address correct.... thc1777@aol.com ... I can't tell if after the c is a numeral one or a small letter el.
Rick said it might be because aol filters a lot of stuff and the file might be too big. He's not sure.
If you go to TM... I just put one of the photos there.
I now know how to do that.
Renee, it's an L after the c, not a 1. It's not case sensitive.
Saw the pic Renee. Neat. I'd be afraid of hitting a moose. I'd be creeping down that road.
We can have deer run across the road here. One night I was coming home from working the evening shift as supervisor at the hospital. It was very foggy and I could barely see my hand in front of my face. I have some dark roads on my way home. All of a sudden I had this intense feeling to be very careful, there might be a deer crossing the road. I slowed down immediately. Seconds after I did, there was a cow standing in the middle of the road. It must have gotten out of one of the fields. It was just standing there chewing it's cud. That intense feeling saved both of our lives. I've had that kind of thing happen several times.
Carol...
I did have the email address wrong. I tried again...
but was rejected by aol once again. Sorry... Rick (nor I) know how to get around that.
The only other suggestion I have is that if Coreen is OK with it I could send you her email address. That's never happened to me before.
Renee, Carol, if you want, you can try my email, & I would post the pics...I have been able to do that for both Jan & Carol...it's up to you guys...coreenesq@sbcglobal.net
Gee Carol are we on the same page or what!...
I guess she would have to send you her email address if you can't email me. That's weird.
I think you must still have an error in my email address.
Actually Coreen has more experience in using pics emailed on the blog.
Thanks Coreen. I was thinking all along that you would be a better person to do this. Maybe my AOL read my mind. Weird.
We just have 10, now 9 more comment spaces. If you don't want to see some gross skin lesions I suggest that someone do something.
I'm watching It's Complicated with Meryl. I saw it at the movies but not since. I love that movie.
The email I sent to Coreen bounced too. Rick thinks I may have to send an email without the attachment first.... it may be a problem on my end not recognizing the emails.
I sent one with the pictures to him and it went through no problem.
Stick with Coreen Renee. I did get that email.
Renee said she would send them tomorrow. Has an important game to watch. We know how that is.
Coreen...
your email has bounced twice without the attachments. I got a message saying it wasn't a valid email. Sorry I'm such a Luddite. I'm going to relax and watch a Bruins hockey game now. I'll try again tomorrow.
I do have something I will put up temporarily. No lesion pics.
OK, new post.
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