Jan, your sandwich and kit kat bar sounded good. I could only eat half my baked potato. I was actually full after my salad. With the avocado, feta and olives in it, it's kinda rich.
That little cooking cabinet I got at Target. It was a good price. Little commercial here. Couldn't find anything close to the quality and price anywhere else. I did a lot of looking online. I had my guys put it together. That's a first for me. Always did that myself but now, those days are over. The little top has an extension that opens up. The wooden top was a little unshiny but I took care of that with 7 or 8 coats of polyurethane. I do tend to spill when I cook and that can stain. My BBQ sauce could eat a hole in something. It's that good. Didn't want that happening.
The guy who put it together said it was very solid. Good on Target. I have found other nice stuff at Target before.
On the inside, the cabinet shelves pull out like drawers. Great for hiding some of my other cooking appliances. No, all my other appliances won't fit in there. They take up half the other cabinets. I'm a kitchen gadget/utencil and whatever, freak. I really haven't gotten anything new in a while now, don't need anything else.
I thought of putting a small stove/oven in the kitchen but thought nooo. I have something that will do everything I need to do and it's more interesting doing it on or in. I do have the convection oven on the counter. Use it a lot. I use one of those Nuwave cooktops and even though it was highway robbery for shipping, I love it. Have two because you get two. One here and one at the house. It's programmable. Love that feature.
Kitchens are fun! And here...it's like a cookout every time I cook. I can see for miles outside while I cook, rain or shine.
Jan, papa carpenter guy really made a lot of the choices on what I used in the kitchen. He had better taste than I did and over 40 years of experience. He picked things out and said look around and see if I like something else better. I never did. He's a Cajun man with 7 kids and a tad older than me. His taste was a little expensive and I kept saying..this IS a camp. He treated it as if it was a fine home.
I feel like I've known him forever. He's a hunter/fisherman. Two of his boys work with him, one only part time since he's going back to school to do industry work. I think that all of his 4 sons used to work for him but moved on to other jobs. Papa and the sons that I met have this innate intelligence and we hit it off very well. Very compatable. I have to try to stay away from them when they are working or we talk too much.
They will be back at the end of the week, I think, to start on the outside. It will be harder for me to interfere with their work out there.
The son who does most of the work was here one day just to pick up something and we were both watching that Arias trial. He was fascinated with it also. I told them that any time they wanted to come out to fish or anything that I have a guest room. Now that I've moved into my recliner, I have two guest rooms.
They do have a small camp on a river a ways from here that they share with some other families. They also had a camp, down south of here, near the Gulf but Rita took that one out. We share a lot of fishing stories.
I tracked my Red Book and it's supposed to arrive at Walmart today. I wonder if they will let me pick it up before the date they listed. I think I'll need a dolly to pick it up. It weighs 10 lbs. Soon I can start my studying. That website I found has an entire lecture series on the book with assignments. It sure would be fun if you lived here Jan and we could do them together.
Carol... yeah... it was the first time I used the camera. He gave it to me Christmas of 2011. He's used it. It's small and fits in one's pocket.... says it's handy to take on a hike.
I've been thinking about getting one of those counter top convection ovens. Seems like it'd be great for cooking for only 2 people. What do you cook in yours?
We have to go vote today. It's town election day. Big contest between 2 guys that wanna be fire chief.... and another between 2 guys that wanna be on the school board. We're both voting for the newbies.... sometimes it's just time for new blood. But I bet the incumbents will win... it's hard rooting out the oldies in small towns such as ours.
We are also voting for how we want the town to spend our property tax money. Roads need fixing. We always put money aside for a new police cruiser. Will we give teachers a raise this year or not. How much does the library get. It's the most direct form of democracy... and we always vote.
Renee, I cook everything in my counter top convection oven, everything that will fit and everything I need or want to cook will fit. It has all kinds of options from warm to broil. It costs less to operate. It doesn't heat up the place. I have a big oven at home but use a smaller counter top convection over there also.
I've catered a party for 30 several times without any regular stove/oven. I did have many of my appliances going along with a smoker and BBQ pit. Only thing that doesn't work real well is baking cookies. Not good for that. Probably not pies either but I don't do either very often. I did do some cookies a while back and had to make just a few at a time. I have baked bread in it, some focaccia bread. It did fine.
I tracked my book order and Fed X reports that they attempted to deliver it and no one was home. They are delivering it to Walmart, open 24 hours. Doesn't make sense to me. It was not to be delivered to me. Even if it was, I went to the house after the time it was supposed to be delivered and no indication that they went there.
but hey... if it's what you want... happy studying.
BTW... I loved your story about Maggie wanting her doggie cookies over on TM. I love reading about Maggie and Ryley. I've had lots of dogs... was partial to black labs. After our last lab had to be put down due to kidney failure, we decided to try going for a year without a dog. That was 12 yrs ago... we now feel we travel too much to get a dog. And besides... my 3 cats are easier to take care of than one dog.... as Coreen recently said... cats rule!
Renee, if you go back and look at the pics Jan put up on March 7, the last pic is one of the Red Book. It's big, like a coffee table book. Put legs on it and it could be the coffee table. It has lots of pics in it. They are drawings he did illustrating visions he had during his meditation.
Renee, I've had a lot of cats, actually I have a lot of cats right now. They are nice and they are easier to take care of but not the same as a dog. Not a girl's or man's best friend. They can't ride shotgun with you in your vehicle, or take a walk with you. They usually won't share a cookie with ya either.
We couldn't find a more interesting cast of characters, like we have on the Trail, if we looked forever. Every day it's a new reality show. Some days are more fun and interesting than others.
Yeah Carol... you're inundated with cats... he he...
seriously... I hope them kitties are alright.
I've been on TrailMix almost from it's beginning. I started off with lurking... like a lot of others. Craig started it in June of 2005. I finally got the nerve to speak up sometime in Sept. I was very polite and addressed Craig as Mr. Crawford.
The first group there were wild and much funnier than those there now. Every now and then someone like Nash flashes some of the earlier humor.
It's changed.... but that's to be expected... I LOVE it in all it's goofiness and serious discussions. And over the years Craig has changed too. He was not openly gay in the beginning. I'm glad he is now.
Hope it goes on for another 8 yrs... it's been a fun ride.
And I can admit that there are times that TM has frustrated me.... like now... it appears to be down again. I know it frustrates the hell out of Craig when that happens.
Back in 2008... when we were divided between the Hillary and Obama camps... there were several people who's posts I quit reading. Some were obviously there just to throw bait and probably get off on the reactions. Craig finally kicked some people off the blog. It's been much better since he finally decided it really isn't a democracy.... but his blog.
I don't like it when some take stuff too seriously... but that's probably better left alone.
Probably need to get your guys to build you a stand for that book Carol...or else it could become one of Kramer's coffee table book tables...Seinfeld epi...
Renee, think its universal that 'rooting out the oldies'is difficult, no matter the size of the town...
Time really flies...first read TM back in early 2008 after sending a few comments to Craig...had originally heard & liked him when he made regular radio appearances on a radio talk show hosted by a lib & conservative...didn't even know about TM until he responded by why not join in...
And yes factions there early on...now it reminds me of 'Cheers'...
I also found Craig's blog because I looked him up to thank him for something he said.
Remember how irritating Brian was? As mean as he was, he never came after me, for some reason. I would say things and say I was going to jump behind my couch and wait for the bullets to stop flying. Maybe he thought that I was too vulnerable to attack.
Hearing all this Catholic pope news, I think that the smartest thing I never did was join the Catholic church. I kinda liked the little priest there. He was from Sri Lanka. SF was in the church almost every day. He gave more money to the church than he kept himself to live on but that priest never came to see him when he was infirm. He wasn't giving any more money because he was no longer in charge of it.
I remember mom gave a chunk of change before she died to have lights put up in the top front of the church to light some stained glass windows. They never did that. It was a pretty little church but it would have been prettier if they would have lighted those windows.
There were some good old people and young ones who went to that church but there were some real hypocrits also.
Coreen.... I drink diet soda... but Rick drinks Poland Springs carbonated flavored water. People who got in early on the bottled water craze must have made a fortune.
There used to be a program on MSNBC on at noontime called Coast to Coast that I watched regularly... the hosts were Monica Crowley who was in DC and Ron Reagan who was in Seattle. When Ron went on a 2-week vacation, Craig subbed for him. At the end of the stint Monica asked Craig what he planned to do next. He said he was starting a blog because that was where the action was. I LOVED him because of his wicked sense of humor... I have followed TrailMix since it's beginning.
Carol... Brian has Crohn's Disease... but I honestly think he just got a kick out of manipulating people. Methinks Craig took such a long time to get rid of him because he was gay too.
Carol... I was born a Catholic. But my father was abused as a kid by a priest in Canada. He hated the church.... but my mother insisted we get some religious training. I used to go to catechism and to church with my baby brother. One day at the age of about 11, I asked why we had to go to church but my parents didn't.... my father looked at my mother and said, "that's what I was waiting for her to understand, now that she does, she doesn't have to have a thing to do with the church if that's her choice". I've never been a member of the catholic church since then.
I was born and raised a Methodist. I enjoyed going to church. My best friend growing up went also. We'd go to church camps and wreck havoc on everyone. Just mildly devious. Actually kind of entertaining to the older folks.
At junior high age, I started working in the church nursery. We'd go to early church and then work the nursery for Sunday school and late church. We got paid 5 bucks for the day. That was good money back then. My first real job. Quit going when I started college.
When mom married my SF they went to the Catholic church. She was born a Catholic and then rejoined when she married SF. I would go with them on special occasions. When mom died I drove over to see my SF on Sundays and went to church with him. It was a 40 mile drive to go see him. It was part of my grief work. Then I decided to join and you know the rest of the story.
I'm a Snapple drinker...lemonade & the 1/2 tea, 1/2 lemonade...I am a Pepsi & Dr. Pepper soda drinker...along with Poland Spring bottled water of choice, but I don't carry a water bottle with me or have any in the car as some I know do...all the time...
A retired Catholic...don't really have any beef with the Church, went to catholic grammar school & 2years high school before I switched to public high school...
I do find the catholic bashing pretty over the top for the most part...& in the scheme of things...no more offensive then others that I have no use for...
Funny I have a long time friend who is married to a guy who was abused by a priest, but you know he remains an active member of the catholic church...not so much his wife or myself...I go to mass when family/friends occassions require it...weddings, funerals...remember growing up italian hard not to be a catholic...
About the TM personalities...hard to have an opinion of someone who you really don't know...naturally we all form opinions regardless...with Carol, we have come to kind of know each other, have even spoken on the phone...Renee, she has an accent!! even though she doesn't think so...and putting voices together with the pics we have posted here, well you do get to know people better...
I drink Coke. I don't like water. I feel like it bloats me when I drink it. Maybe I'm an alien. I have tried to cut back on my soda drinking. I've been buying this V8 fusion drink, the pomegranate blueberry one. It has both fruit and veggies in it. It's so sweet that I add water to it to tone it down. After my coffee, I drink it until late afternoon.
I watch it too, Ramsey's not English!...though my attention span sometimes makes me forget to switch it back, tend to hit the remote during commercials...but then I pick up the gist later...(I do that with a lot of TV though)...
Don't think of HK as a real guilty pleasure, Carol may not remember mine...Mob Wives, now those women are really a trip...& I have known some who are very similar!...
He has another chef show with 2 other chef judges, the italian who is really sarcastic & the fatty who tries to be nice (don't remember its name) & the restaurant makeover show...they did a restaurant in Bpt & Stratford awhile back..don't remember the name of that one either...
Coreen.... it's called Masterchef.... with Joe Bastianich (yes I googled it) and Graham Elliot.... I LOVE that show too.
Yeah... Gordon is Scottish. I have a friend that teases me by saying he's my secret boyfriend. She called today and said "I see you boyfriend's show is starting tonight".... yup... it is ;)
And just so you know...I do not know how to cook...at all..and most of the dishes on these shows no way would I eat them...
I watch Top Chef too...Fabio was one of my favs from the past...he didn't win, but he has become a minor celeb...& hopefully he is making money at it...
Coreen, did/does your mama like to cook? I can't understand anyone not liking to cook. I like to eat and I'm picky so I need to cook so I can make it MY WAY.
I am enjoying reading your preferences for beverages. I like a little diet orange crush with my evening meal at home. I order water when eating out.
Coreen, I have my own water bottles and do carry them every where I go. I use good old albuq water out of the tap.
I had some ham hocks in the freezer and soaked us some pinto beans last night and cooked them tonight with the beans. They were not done in time for tonight so they will be in the fridge until tomorrow evening's dinner. I love pinto beans and ham.
I always buy a bottle of water before getting on the plane. It urks me that a bottle of water in the airports costs close to $3. Interestingly, a bottle of flavored water with vitamins in it was less than a bottle of plain water in the Asheville, NC airport. I bought the flavored water. It had 200% vit C and I thought that could not hurt.
We were talking on here about Scientology. I found an interesting article in an old Vanity Fair I had laying around here about Tom Cruise and Scientology. It was interesting. The best one was from the New Yorker that you posted Coreen. I could not quit reading it until I finished it.
Jan, I have friends who have water bottles in their cars, in their handbags, wherever they go...don't get it since if I drank that much water I wouldn't be able to walk past a ladies room!...
As for scientology, it is quite interesting as I said that they have such negative press all around them & yet they have so far managed to withstand the scrutiny...I still don't get the celebs who are part of it...
There is some controversy/mystery around the current leader & his wife or her whereabouts...
Actually, I'm not as much into the work of cooking as I am into eating something I like, the way I like it. I can't any longer endure standing with my arms held out in front of me for long periods. That all changed when I broke my back. Most of what I cook now is not difficult. My salad takes a lot more effort than I like but it has to have each of the required ingredients for me to enjoy it.
After I thought about it for a while, I realized that I never was into the work of cooking, for myself or others. I bet it's the same for many an Italian mama. There can be hours of hard labor over a hot stove or oven but first there's all the shopping and chopping. A ton of work for a few minutes of pleasure.
We might have assumed that many of the people who were known to be good at their cooking and did a lot of it, also loved it when they just wanted people to come over and eat and enjoy themselves. They really just enjoyed making people happy, and that was the same for me. That's kinda a lost art also these days, wanting to make people happy..when it requires work. And often, those who you go to all that trouble for...don't even appreciate it, but often just come to expect it of you. It's not hard to understand why anyone would not want to do that anymore.
Saw a congratulations on the Trail from sjwny to Keith Olbermann. She didn't mention what for. I Googled it. Seems he won his lawsuit against Current TV for his termination there.
I was a big fan of his at one time. He is a good writer and I liked most of his causes. I wrote him a number of times to thank him. He did seem to have a big ego problem and couldn't play well with others.
Rumors have it that he wants back in sports, where he started. What do our sport's girls think about that? Think anyone will have him back? He does have a rep for causing trouble whereever he goes. I don't know if they have enough clauses in a contract that can protect anyone who hires him from what he can end up doing to them and then getting rewarded for doing it.
I also saw that one of the not too frequent, anymore, commenters on the Trail dropped in to complain about all the Catholic bashing that was going on there. True that the criticism doesn't belong to all priests or all parishioners.
I also remember his coming down hard on me once a good while back. I mentioned that I attended this small University area Catholic church for a little while. When they did the invitation to communion one Sunday, I listened to the words of the invitation and it didn't really exclude me so I took communion. It is a no no in the Catholic church if you are not Catholic even though knowing the priest at that particular church, I don't think he would have minded.
Well, the guy I'm talking about jumped all over my shit, saying that I insulted the church. I think it was the other way around. I really think that there's something seriously wrong when a church doesn't invite everyone to participate in communion. It was my feelings that the hierarchy, well above the church level, would also have been OK with it. Hey, I always gave a decent offering when I went to any church. I also didn't do that when I was attending a Catholic church where I knew people would know that I wasn't an official Catholic, out of respect for them.
Renee, I think that all of our parents did good by insisting that we have some religious education when we were young. Churches do teach many good things even if some involved don't actually practice them. I bet that many of those concepts taught in church did influence us in some positive way.
I saw that on C2C last night they had a nutritionist and a cardiologist talking about cholesterol and statin use. I haven't listened to it yet but in the little write up about the show, it seems that they both agree that the statins can cause problems. In one study..."that after taking the statins, some women in the study started showing an increased risk for diabetes..." I recently heard that somewhere else. It often takes years of people taking certain drugs before everything they can do will come out.
Also.."Rather than dietary fats, he pointed at sugar and refined carbohydrates as the real culprits in cardiovascular disease, with surging insulin levels causing inflammation in the small lining of blood vessels. Stress also contributes to heart disease, he noted"
Both agreed on the use of Coenzyme Q10. I used to take it long ago and just forgot. I started taking it again.
My cholesteral level has been higher the last time I checked it. I'm due for another test but I can't find a day when I can do a 12 hour fast and that's a must when you get your cholesterol level checked.
My level was low when I was hyperthyroid but after I got that blasted and my thyroid level dropped, my cholesterol level went up. I knew that was going to happen since I took patho in grad school.
I've always been a little uncomfortable with MY taking the statins and my doc never has pushed me on it. She knows me. I have no problem with the Coenzyme Q10.
I see that "the Sessions" is now at Redbox. Anyone seen it yet? I want to see it.
Did you know that you can get online find exactly which Redbox has it and even reserve it to pick up. Saves you going to a Redbox and not finding what you want to watch.
NEVER stop taking a prescribed medication without discussing it with your medical/nurse practitioner. Also do your own research on it.
Recently I've come across some info that is so opposed to everything that I've been taught. I need to do some future study on it before making up my mind.
On Dr Oz, there was this infectious disease specialist saying that stopping an antibiotic is probably a better thing to do when all symptoms have subsided for a while and there are still more pills left in the prescription. He said that most physicians do not know this yet. Dr Oz did consult with other infectious disease specialists and some did concur. I want to check on this more.
The program was on the overuse and misuse of antibiotics and how they are acquiring resistance. They did blame the practitioner for over prescribing and the patients for insisting that they get one when not needed. Something that I have often preached.
Coreen... that was a great 2 hours of Ramsey Rambunctiousness... think it's gonna be a fun season.
Carol... I think it's almost impossible to freely give one's opinion on any given subject without insulting someone at times. I don't pay it any mind. OD was just giving his opinion... it's worth the same as anyone's. And, IMO, his offense is his problem.
The other day I didn't tell you guys, as not to give it any power over me, but I kinda reinjured my rib.
I told y'all that I went to get my 40 lbs of bird seed at Sam's. I did OK there. I rolled it onto the top of my buggy, then into my truck, then off the truck bed onto a dolly. That all went swimmingly. Then I went to feed my birds and I had another partially full bag. Those bags are made of a material that is reinforced to make them difficult to get into. It was cut open and I had some scissors right next to the bag. I needed a bigger hole so I tried to tear one open. It wouldn't give but that recently injured rib did. Damn it. I felt it pop like you would a thin metal baking sheet that you would try to bend. Bonk, bonk. I tried to pretend that it was nothing. It started hurting but not too bad. I went about my business, even doing my exercise on my Geselle. Last night it showed me who was boss. That's often what it does. It make take a few days for the pain to really kick in.
Now besides, never lean over a hard arm rest in my truck, I have to add never try to tear a material resistant to tearing, to my list of things not to do. That list is getting pretty long.
I was also wondering if it is my subconscious mind trying to give me another excuse to avoid moving the stuff that I didn't have much of an excuse left not to move. Our subconsciouses will try to help us out in avoiding undesirable tasks at times. I think that mine might even try to kill me rather than allow me to work too hard anymore.
Carol, talking to subconscious mind, leave me alone. I'd rather just feel guilt about not doing something than having pain as an excuse not to do it.
My doctor put me on a statin several years ago. Like I always do... I read all kinds of books and researched them online. I learnt that statins are prescribed differently than most drugs. Usually, one is given the lowest dosage of any drug first... see if it works.... if needed, the dosage is upped. But with statins it works backwards. They prescribe a high dose first... usually 20mgs. Lots of people can't tolerate it... especially women. It can cause debilitating muscle aches.
My whole upper body ached like crazy shortly after taking them. I stopped and called my doctor. When I saw her, I said I'd try them as long as I could start on a low dosage and see how it affected me. I'm on the lowest dosage possible... I feel fine... and it seems to be working for me. And yes, in my research I did come across the stuff about CoQ10.... I've been taking 100mgs of that daily along with the Zocor.
Carol... I'm sorry about your rib and your pain. Yeah... it does seem that the universe is giving you a message to stop messing around with stuff you shouldn't be messing around with...
I'm trying to find if any research has proved that glucosamine can improve healing of the cartilage that joins my rib joints. That's where my problem is. While looking, I found this Jan:
"Glucosamine-Like Supplement Suppresses Multiple Sclerosis Attacks, Study Suggests"
Can't offer any proof that gluc/chondroitin heals any part of my body, but have been taking it for years...& while I still have pain, when I first learned of it I was at the point that I was hobbling, not walking & bending just to pick up one of the cat's dishes was agony, that's when I not only switched to wearing only birkis, (trust me giving up my fancy shoes was difficult) but read about g/c...I tried it & while my various pains still are there, I can walk & bend with less pain...don't misunderstand the pains continue...they are arthritic in nature but I manage better...so far w/o prescription meds...
I could never handle a 50# bag of anything...one of the reasons why I only get 20-25# bags bird seed...which are still difficult to get out of the car into the garage trash cans...
I guess if you try g/c & it gives some relief great, if not, don't think it causes any more harm...
I know one of the pres. meds...its celebrex or cymbalta (whichever is a depression med)(forget which) is now also prescribed for arthritis, but don't have any first hand knowledge if it does help...
BTW Carol... that early religious training did include learning the tenets of the Catholic faith. I'm sure the rules haven't changed... any priest... and especially the hierarchy would not knowingly give communion to a non Catholic... it is against the tenets of the faith.
It is because Catholics are supposed to believe that their faith is the one true faith. The communion host is the embodiment of the body and blood of Christ... and they believe only Catholics are worthy of accepting it.
That's just one of the many rules... take it or leave it... I chose to leave it.
HK with a twist...don't remember Ramsey throwing out the entire staff except one guy...just on that thought Ramsey would make him the winner...but hey what do I know!...
Have wondered about the HK diners...do they pay for meals?...or are they invited guests?...don't know as it was ever mentioned...not sure I could wait for so long to eat....
And here's an unsolicited stamp of approval for a vitamin/supplement (not sure what it is)Biotin...for helping hair loss...I have had breakage routinely at my forehead hair line(likely from coloring & having baby fine hair) skepticasl but gave it a try...amazingly the breakage has corrected &hair continues to grow w/o breaking off...saw results in maybe a month or so of taking 1 capsule a day...
Coreen... I've always wondered about the dining guests too. I'm not sure if they pay or not.... but if it were me, I wouldn't pay to be the show's guinea pig and "maybe" get a meal... I would, however, try it for free.
It's early.... sometimes a person I swear is going to be going early.... lasts a long time.
There were lots of first for the show last night.... first time more than 12 contestants (there was 20)... first time "show me your signature dish" done in front of a live audience... first time Ramsey threw out most of the contestants. Can't wait to see next week's show.
I'm doing the glucosamine though. I attended this pharm workshop a while back. The PhD who did it was really sharp. I'm pretty picky about who's doing the talking. I also have this intuition that I pay attention to also. It's pretty accurate. He talked about both the Glucosamine and the CoQ10. He recommended both and gave reasons. I'm careful which supplements I take. If I can get adequate amounts in food, I do that. There's more info on the dangers of too many supplements and some supplements are causing more harm than good.
Here's the guy who was on the Dr Oz show. I checked out his credentials and they were very impressive. I don't think there is enough data in to justify changing a long held policy to continue an antibiotic until the entire dose is completed but his explanation does make good sense.
Here is an article from Dr. Oz. He talks about it in this article.
This is a hotly debated topic in the medical community: Should I stop taking a course of antibiotics early if I feel better? Many organizations, including the Mayo Clinic and the Tennessee Department of Health, say no because stopping your course of antibiotics too soon “often wipes out only the most vulnerable bacteria while allowing relatively resistant bacteria to survive.”
However, multiple studies have shown that taking shorter courses of antibiotics for infections like strep throat, pneumonia or UTIs are just as effective as longer courses. Initially, physicians treated pneumonia with a 14-day course of antibiotics. However, that duration became 10 days, then 7 days, then 5 days. Now, there are studies that show that a 3-day antibiotic course is just as effective.
So if you feel 100% better and still have 3 to 4 days left of your antibiotic prescription, call your physician and ask if you can stop. The doctor may say, “Yes, you can stop if you feel 100% better.” However, you should always consult your doctor before stopping your course of antibiotics."
There's a lot of other great info in that article and everyone should read it.
Renee, that refusal to share communion with anyone who is not a member of the church is the ultimate in not being very Christian and I don't think that anyone could come up with a reasonable justification for it. IMHO, Jesus wouldn't have conditions for who he would invite to share his body and blood with. The only justification I can see for the Catholic church is...we want a committment of your attendance and your money before we will share. Bah Humbug.
"we want a committment of your attendance and your money before we will share. Bah Humbug."
Carol... IMO, that nails it...
I have a good friend that is a potter... she swears by the gluc/chondroitin stuff. She's been taking it for several yrs and says she most definitely wouldn't be making pots any longer without it.
And thinking about cooking.... my mother was an excellent cook. She particularly liked to bake. She used to make these homemade donuts that were to die for.... and when she made them... it seemed that every kid the neighborhood knew it and was at our house.
I have her recipe, but have never made those donuts. I like cooking, but was never in love with it. I do like watching the Food Network... but would never go through all the hassle to make everything from scratch. I do love going out to restaurants.
Do you think that your mom really loved the work involved in her baking or how much others enjoyed the results of it? Many people would have thought that I loved all that work but I think that is just what they wanted to believe
Well... reading the parts of the Bible that are claimed to be Jesus' words are pretty cool....
but... I'm not convinced that he really existed...
I do respect everyone's right to choose (or not) what church they belong to and their beliefs. Solar read me the riot act when I stated that once on TM... but that's ok... he has the right to his beliefs too.... even if I do roll my eyes whenever he repeats them... :)
Carol... one of my favorite books... believe it or not... is Saint Francis by Nikos Kazantazkis. His most famous book is Zorba the Greek. Nikos' writing is very earthy... you can hear the sounds, feel the breezes, and smell the smells that he describes.
I highly recommend any of his books. My absolute favorite of his tomes is The Last Temptation of Christ. He writes about Christ as an actual human being. A movie was made of the book about 15 yrs ago. The Catholic Church soundly condemned it... assuring that many people went to see it.
Lord make me an instrument of your peace, Where there is hatred let me sow love. Where there is injury, pardon. Where there is doubt, faith. Where there is despair, hope. Where there is darkness, light. And where there is sadness, joy.
O divine master grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console; to be understood as to understand; To be loved as to love For it is in giving that we receive- it is in pardoning that we are pardoned. And it's in dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen
The Episcopal church says that anyone who is baptized can receive the Eucharist. John always tells his congregation that anyone who wishes to - can receive the body and blood of Jesus. The Episcopal church is off the Anglican church of England. We believe that there are many ways to God.
Jan, right before the Eucharist in the Catholic church, the priest says something like..we are not worthy to recieve these gifts but just say the word..blah, blah, blah. So I said a word and went to communion. No lightening struck me so I figured it was OK.
I just did it at the church that's close to our University. I liked that priest. He had been the priest at SF's church years ago. I think he was gay but not practicing. I attended this little program he did for women, of any faith. He gave us all communion. I'm not sure the Church knew about it.
I did go pick up my Red Book. The young fellow who got it for me was a little surprised by the size. I did manage to get it home even with my rattling rib. There's alway a short time when my separated rib rattles around. That's the most painful period. I'm having some trouble breathing. I'll have to wait for a while to start studying the book, when I can manipulate it without pain.
The Church of the River adopts different things from other religions. It's kind of a cafeteria style church. I like many of the Saints and St Francis of Assisi is one who I like.
Carol, this communion thing...other than the guy at tm chastising you, did any person at the catholic church stop you from receiving communion...I would consider the source of the condemnation....
I do not recall ever hearing a priest say anything to suggest that a noncatholic can not participate...
Is there any 'christian' church today that is not an offshoot of the roman (catholic) church at some point or other...
Jan you mentioned episcopals splitting from the church of england, which to the best of my recollection w/o looking it up split from the roman church because henry viii wanted the pope to annul a marriage so he could marry another (well & another etc)...& when it wasn't done, he simply ordered the english priests to do his bidding... hence the church of england with the king taking the place of the pope...
"In our ecclesiastical region there are priests who don't baptize the children of single mothers because they weren't conceived in the sanctity of marriage," Bergoglio told his priests. "These are today's hypocrites. Those who clericalize the Church. Those who separate the people of God from salvation. And this poor girl who, rather than returning the child to sender, had the courage to carry it into the world, must wander from parish to parish so that it's baptized!"
We can't really criticize a Pope who are against the trilogy...gay marriage, abortion, and contraceptives. They do not set the church doctrine, they just have to protect it.
Carol... if you really want to defend the Catholic Church... go for it, girl...
but I will reserve the right to criticize it if I want...
and a Pope is THE head of the Catholic Church... Popes... and priests... used to get married and have children. Some pope somewhere along the way changed that. They do not just protect doctrine, they make doctrine.... that's what the bit of infallibility is all about.
If women are to become priests... that order will come from the Pope. If the church is to change it's stance on contraception... that order will come from the Pope. Any change to be made by the Catholic Church will come from the Pope.
The church is not a democracy... it is a hierarchical dictatorship.
So negative Coreen. Maybe Pope Francis will be a reformer and will change some things. I kinda have a good feeling about him. You know I haven't been a big supporter of the Catholic church.
And, you know who, didn't write the article about Pope Francis, he just linked it.
You may be under a misconception tht the church wants to change things...
Have to say that most traditional catholics that I know, (those that actually go to mass & participate) don't discuss the issues that you mention...& if I asked them directly they likely would not disagree with the church's stand...
I know the media pushes the idea that American catholics are restless, not in agreement with the church, but not so sure that is the fact...
And no not the Saints, the no one but you know who said a thing...
"Hanna, of the Women's Ordination Conference, says she has "a lot of hope" that the new pope will address issues such as gay rights, divorce and contraception, which cause some women to feel excluded from the church.
And, she added, she hopes Francis will reopen the discussion on women's ordination."
And any of the women in the article that claim to be womenpriests were excommunicated by the Church together with any male priest who assisted them...Change?...
Disclaimer...I don't know what I'm talking about but....he already represents some change, as I see it. He's Jesuit and he choose a different name. Maybe it's a trend.
Enough of the church thing for me...almost forgot to let you in on this little bit of history that most people don't know...the wright bro. weren't the first to fly... Brideport's Gustav Whitehead first to fly
Carol... I agree with Coreen... this Pope will not start ordaining women priests, IMO.
I'd just like to see the church stop being so political and stop making a big deal about abortion and no contraception and focus more on justice and being advocates for regular people.
I know a ton of Catholics... hell, I married a man that went to Catholic schools K-12. Most of them ignore the edict on birth control and use some kind of contraception. It'd be nice if the hierarchy just got over it.
"St. Francis is not only the most attractive of all the Christian saints, he is the most attractive of Christians, admired by Buddhists, atheists, completely secular, modern people, Communists, to whom the figure of Christ himself is at best unattractive. Partly this is due to the sentimentalization of the legend of his life and that of his companions in the early days of the order. Many people today who put his statue in their gardens know nothing about him except that he preached a sermon to the birds, wrote a hymn to the sun, and called the donkey his brother. These bits of information are important because they are signs of a revolution of the sensibility — which incidentally was a metaphysical revolution of which certainly St. Francis himself was quite unaware. They stand for a mystical and emotional immediate realization of the unity of being, a notion foreign, in fact antagonistic, to the main Judeo-Christian tradition. “I am that I am” — the God of Judaism is the only self-sufficient being. All the reality that we can know is contingent, created out of nothing, and hence of an inferior order of reality. Faced with the “utterly other,” the contingent soul can finally only respond with fear and trembling."
Renee, yes, those catholics I know may not agree about birth control & maybe to some extent abortion personally but in the overall 'idea' of being catholic, they don't disgree with the church's teachings...
they have 'faith' that their beliefs are yes the true ones...agree or not..& they don't see the church as 'political' in the sense that you & others may...
again I find the criticism of the church to be over the top especially coming from non-catholics, trust me noncatholics attacking the church not about to change a thing...
Two things that I did like about the Catholic church. I liked that they recognized Mary and gave her an important role. Ironic huh. And I liked the other Saints, the ones I knew about.
Coreen... Rick left the church because he saw it as too political. Both his brothers left the church because they saw it as too political. None of their children go to church.
Losing partitioners means losing money... and you do like to remind us that it's always about the money...
I don't expect the church to change because of what I and other non or lapsed Catholics say.... but the money might make a difference. Only time will tell.
I often said a Hail Mary on my way to work. I asked her to hang with me for the day. I did alter the last line of the prayer to....pray for us now and at the hour of our NEED. I didn't want to have to be dead to get a prayer.
Coreen, I checked with John and we have not actually split with the Anglican church. We are in communion with the Anglican church of England. We have had some difficulties with the C of E recently because the Epis church ordains women and we currently have a presiding bishop (Bishop of all Bishops in US) who is a woman. Also, the Anglican church of England is very unhappy because we had a bishop in New Hampshire who is openly gay. He retired recently. We have had somewhat of a split in the U.S. Episcopal church in recent years because of these issues. Those who have broken off from the Epis church here are calling themselves Anglicans.
It is interesting that the new Pope is a Jesuit yet calling himself Frances. The Franciscans and Jesuits are my favorite of the Catholic groups. Not sure why. They just seem to live more in this world.
Absolutely Renee, it is always about the money, never get an argument with me about that...
Not sure what the fall off in church attendance here is due too...not sure anyone knows for sure...
For me, I stopped going to mass when the changes were made to the mass itself...I liked the Latin mass, can't stand that they made it more 'protestant' I don't like the jumping up & down, the communal singing, can't stand the handshake or that they added the prostestant end to the our father...(ok so I'm an elitist)...
Coreen, John says not all protestant churches had their origins in the Roman Catholic church. Martin Luther was a Catholic priest. John Wesley (Methodists) was a priest in the Church of England. There is evidence that the Church of England was formed before 200 A.D. The Orthodox Church of Greece originated in Jerusalem around the Apostle James, Jesus' brother. The Martoma church in India originated through the apostle Thomas.
The above is all from John (my husband) not the Apostle, John. LOL>
Coreen, a lot of people think the Episcopal church is protestant. I was just stating a fact. Have not looked back to see if you said that. I don't think so.
Woke up and caught a little Hardball. Heard that the Republicants were against any gun control at all even thought a majority of the public wants it. Anyone have any rational explanation for that? Does a Republicants even know what the word rational means? I don't think so. I don't think that they are even human. I think they came up with some robutts. Yes I spelled it right. Its short for rolling butts, buttholes. There's no brain or humanity in there. They're scart little people. No wonder you're so negative Coreen. They probably sprayed you with the same gas. Might be a good idea to look to some religion for help.
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Thanks so much, Coreen.
The top picture was taking from our balcony... that's the view of the ski area, Loon Mt. right from our room.
The second picture I took from the parking lot when I dropped Rick off for a day of skiing.
The third picture is of a sign that's found all over the northern part of New Hampshire.
Great pics Renee. Looks cold. You should have gotten one of the hot tub.
ooops.... reverse the explanation of the second and third pics.
Carol... the outdoor hot tub is on the other side of the building in first pic. It has a high fence all the way around it.
The Bruins just tied up the game.... gonna go watch it now. But I'm happy that I could finally contribute a post to this blog.
Thanks Renee for sending the pics and thanks Coreen for putting them up. Renee is now officially a Swamp turtle.
Jan, your sandwich and kit kat bar sounded good. I could only eat half my baked potato. I was actually full after my salad. With the avocado, feta and olives in it, it's kinda rich.
Renee, thanks for the pictures.Looks like a great place for some peace and quiet.
Glad to do it guys...
It sounded like this was the first time Renee used the camera her husband gave her. Now, she needs to keep doing it.
Renee, believe it or not, I don't think Coreen did much picture taking either, before the Swamp. Now she's a pro.
That little cooking cabinet I got at Target. It was a good price. Little commercial here. Couldn't find anything close to the quality and price anywhere else. I did a lot of looking online. I had my guys put it together. That's a first for me. Always did that myself but now, those days are over. The little top has an extension that opens up. The wooden top was a little unshiny but I took care of that with 7 or 8 coats of polyurethane. I do tend to spill when I cook and that can stain. My BBQ sauce could eat a hole in something. It's that good. Didn't want that happening.
The guy who put it together said it was very solid. Good on Target. I have found other nice stuff at Target before.
On the inside, the cabinet shelves pull out like drawers. Great for hiding some of my other cooking appliances. No, all my other appliances won't fit in there. They take up half the other cabinets. I'm a kitchen gadget/utencil and whatever, freak. I really haven't gotten anything new in a while now, don't need anything else.
I thought of putting a small stove/oven in the kitchen but thought nooo. I have something that will do everything I need to do and it's more interesting doing it on or in. I do have the convection oven on the counter. Use it a lot. I use one of those Nuwave cooktops and even though it was highway robbery for shipping, I love it. Have two because you get two. One here and one at the house. It's programmable. Love that feature.
Kitchens are fun! And here...it's like a cookout every time I cook. I can see for miles outside while I cook, rain or shine.
Jan, papa carpenter guy really made a lot of the choices on what I used in the kitchen. He had better taste than I did and over 40 years of experience. He picked things out and said look around and see if I like something else better. I never did. He's a Cajun man with 7 kids and a tad older than me. His taste was a little expensive and I kept saying..this IS a camp. He treated it as if it was a fine home.
I feel like I've known him forever. He's a hunter/fisherman. Two of his boys work with him, one only part time since he's going back to school to do industry work. I think that all of his 4 sons used to work for him but moved on to other jobs. Papa and the sons that I met have this innate intelligence and we hit it off very well. Very compatable. I have to try to stay away from them when they are working or we talk too much.
They will be back at the end of the week, I think, to start on the outside. It will be harder for me to interfere with their work out there.
The son who does most of the work was here one day just to pick up something and we were both watching that Arias trial. He was fascinated with it also. I told them that any time they wanted to come out to fish or anything that I have a guest room. Now that I've moved into my recliner, I have two guest rooms.
They do have a small camp on a river a ways from here that they share with some other families. They also had a camp, down south of here, near the Gulf but Rita took that one out. We share a lot of fishing stories.
It's colder here than it is up where you are this morning Coreen. 38.
I tracked my Red Book and it's supposed to arrive at Walmart today. I wonder if they will let me pick it up before the date they listed. I think I'll need a dolly to pick it up. It weighs 10 lbs. Soon I can start my studying. That website I found has an entire lecture series on the book with assignments. It sure would be fun if you lived here Jan and we could do them together.
Carol... yeah... it was the first time I used the camera.
He gave it to me Christmas of 2011. He's used it. It's small and fits in one's pocket.... says it's handy to take on a hike.
I've been thinking about getting one of those counter top convection ovens. Seems like it'd be great for cooking for only 2 people. What do you cook in yours?
We have to go vote today. It's town election day. Big contest between 2 guys that wanna be fire chief.... and another between 2 guys that wanna be on the school board. We're both voting for the newbies.... sometimes it's just time for new blood. But I bet the incumbents will win... it's hard rooting out the oldies in small towns such as ours.
We are also voting for how we want the town to spend our property tax money. Roads need fixing. We always put money aside for a new police cruiser. Will we give teachers a raise this year or not. How much does the library get. It's the most direct form of democracy... and we always vote.
Renee, I cook everything in my counter top convection oven, everything that will fit and everything I need or want to cook will fit. It has all kinds of options from warm to broil. It costs less to operate. It doesn't heat up the place. I have a big oven at home but use a smaller counter top convection over there also.
I've catered a party for 30 several times without any regular stove/oven. I did have many of my appliances going along with a smoker and BBQ pit. Only thing that doesn't work real well is baking cookies. Not good for that. Probably not pies either but I don't do either very often. I did do some cookies a while back and had to make just a few at a time. I have baked bread in it, some focaccia bread. It did fine.
I also have a turkey roaster for big meat.
I tracked my book order and Fed X reports that they attempted to deliver it and no one was home. They are delivering it to Walmart, open 24 hours. Doesn't make sense to me. It was not to be delivered to me. Even if it was, I went to the house after the time it was supposed to be delivered and no indication that they went there.
Carol...
a 10 lb book??!!...
jeebus.... it sounds more like a Bible :)
but hey... if it's what you want... happy studying.
BTW... I loved your story about Maggie wanting her doggie cookies over on TM. I love reading about Maggie and Ryley. I've had lots of dogs... was partial to black labs. After our last lab had to be put down due to kidney failure, we decided to try going for a year without a dog. That was 12 yrs ago... we now feel we travel too much to get a dog. And besides... my 3 cats are easier to take care of than one dog.... as Coreen recently said...
cats rule!
Renee, if you go back and look at the pics Jan put up on March 7, the last pic is one of the Red Book. It's big, like a coffee table book. Put legs on it and it could be the coffee table. It has lots of pics in it. They are drawings he did illustrating visions he had during his meditation.
Renee, I've had a lot of cats, actually I have a lot of cats right now. They are nice and they are easier to take care of but not the same as a dog. Not a girl's or man's best friend. They can't ride shotgun with you in your vehicle, or take a walk with you. They usually won't share a cookie with ya either.
We couldn't find a more interesting cast of characters, like we have on the Trail, if we looked forever. Every day it's a new reality show. Some days are more fun and interesting than others.
Yeah Carol... you're inundated with cats... he he...
seriously... I hope them kitties are alright.
I've been on TrailMix almost from it's beginning. I started off with lurking... like a lot of others. Craig started it in June of 2005. I finally got the nerve to speak up sometime in Sept. I was very polite and addressed Craig as Mr. Crawford.
The first group there were wild and much funnier than those there now. Every now and then someone like Nash flashes some of the earlier humor.
It's changed.... but that's to be expected... I LOVE it in all it's goofiness and serious discussions. And over the years Craig has changed too. He was not openly gay in the beginning. I'm glad he is now.
Hope it goes on for another 8 yrs... it's been a fun ride.
And I can admit that there are times that TM has frustrated me.... like now... it appears to be down again. I know it frustrates the hell out of Craig when that happens.
Back in 2008... when we were divided between the Hillary and Obama camps... there were several people who's posts I quit reading. Some were obviously there just to throw bait and probably get off on the reactions.
Craig finally kicked some people off the blog. It's been much better since he finally decided it really isn't a democracy.... but his blog.
I don't like it when some take stuff too seriously... but that's probably better left alone.
Don't know exactly when I hit the Trail but it was a while before the Swamp was born. It was born in Aug of 2009.
Speaking of the Trail, I haven't been able to get on for a while now.
Probably need to get your guys to build you a stand for that book Carol...or else it could become one of Kramer's coffee table book
tables...Seinfeld epi...
Renee, think its universal that 'rooting out the oldies'is difficult, no matter the size of the town...
Heard this on the news earlier...
guess because locally news is focused on the judge's ruling overturning NYC Mayor Bloomberg's big soda ban...
seems water has soared past soda
as the #1 drink...Soda consumption peaked in 1998 at 54 gal/yr, while we only consumed 42 gal/yr water...
Latest is we now consume 58 gal water (combined tap/other & bottled) vs. 44 gal soda...
My thought was did you ever think you would be 'buying' bottles of water way back when...
Move over soda..the bootled water business is booming
Time really flies...first read TM
back in early 2008 after sending
a few comments to Craig...had originally heard & liked him when he made regular radio appearances on a radio talk show hosted by a lib & conservative...didn't even
know about TM until he responded by why not join in...
And yes factions there early on...now it reminds me of 'Cheers'...
I also found Craig's blog because I looked him up to thank him for something he said.
Remember how irritating Brian was? As mean as he was, he never came after me, for some reason. I would say things and say I was going to jump behind my couch and wait for the bullets to stop flying. Maybe he thought that I was too vulnerable to attack.
I used to think that maybe he was ill and his anger was displaced.
Hearing all this Catholic pope news, I think that the smartest thing I never did was join the Catholic church. I kinda liked the little priest there. He was from Sri Lanka. SF was in the church almost every day. He gave more money to the church than he kept himself to live on but that priest never came to see him when he was infirm. He wasn't giving any more money because he was no longer in charge of it.
I remember mom gave a chunk of change before she died to have lights put up in the top front of the church to light some stained glass windows. They never did that. It was a pretty little church but it would have been prettier if they would have lighted those windows.
There were some good old people and young ones who went to that church but there were some real hypocrits also.
Coreen....
I drink diet soda... but Rick drinks Poland Springs carbonated flavored water. People who got in early on the bottled water craze must have made a fortune.
There used to be a program on MSNBC on at noontime called Coast to Coast that I watched regularly... the hosts were Monica Crowley who was in DC and Ron Reagan who was in Seattle. When Ron went on a 2-week vacation, Craig subbed for him. At the end of the stint Monica asked Craig what he planned to do next. He said he was starting a blog because that was where the action was. I LOVED him because of his wicked sense of humor... I have followed TrailMix since it's beginning.
Carol... Brian has Crohn's Disease... but I honestly think he just got a kick out of manipulating people. Methinks Craig took such a long time to get rid of him because he was gay too.
Carol... I was born a Catholic. But my father was abused as a kid by a priest in Canada. He hated the church.... but my mother insisted we get some religious training. I used to go to catechism and to church with my baby brother. One day at the age of about 11, I asked why we had to go to church but my parents didn't.... my father looked at my mother and said, "that's what I was waiting for her to understand, now that she does, she doesn't have to have a thing to do with the church if that's her choice". I've never been a member of the catholic church since then.
I was born and raised a Methodist. I enjoyed going to church. My best friend growing up went also. We'd go to church camps and wreck havoc on everyone. Just mildly devious. Actually kind of entertaining to the older folks.
At junior high age, I started working in the church nursery. We'd go to early church and then work the nursery for Sunday school and late church. We got paid 5 bucks for the day. That was good money back then. My first real job. Quit going when I started college.
When mom married my SF they went to the Catholic church. She was born a Catholic and then rejoined when she married SF. I would go with them on special occasions. When mom died I drove over to see my SF on Sundays and went to church with him. It was a 40 mile drive to go see him. It was part of my grief work. Then I decided to join and you know the rest of the story.
I'm a Snapple drinker...lemonade & the 1/2 tea, 1/2 lemonade...I am
a Pepsi & Dr. Pepper soda drinker...along with Poland Spring
bottled water of choice, but I don't carry a water bottle with me
or have any in the car as some I know do...all the time...
A retired Catholic...don't really have any beef with the Church, went to catholic grammar school & 2years high school before I switched to public high school...
I do find the catholic bashing pretty over the top for the most part...& in the scheme of things...no more offensive then others that I have no use for...
Funny I have a long time friend who is married to a guy who was
abused by a priest, but you know he remains an active member of the catholic church...not so much his wife or myself...I go to mass when
family/friends occassions require it...weddings, funerals...remember
growing up italian hard not to be
a catholic...
About the TM personalities...hard to have an opinion of someone who you really don't know...naturally we all form opinions regardless...with Carol, we have come to kind of know each other, have even spoken on the phone...Renee, she has an accent!!
even though she doesn't think so...and putting voices together with the pics we have posted here, well you do get to know people better...
And she'll say I have an accent, but she is wrong!...
Coreen... I love diet Dr. Pepper....
I've been told that I have a Massachusetts accent.... that is the state I grew up in.... I don't have an accent... everybody else does thought.... Ha!
Yep, Coreen does have an accent.
One of my favorite shows starts a new season in about half an hour.... I LOVE Hell's Kitchen with that crazy Scot, Gordon Ramsey....
I don't know why I love it.... but I do... it's a secret guilty pleasure...
I drink Coke. I don't like water. I feel like it bloats me when I drink it. Maybe I'm an alien. I have tried to cut back on my soda drinking. I've been buying this V8 fusion drink, the pomegranate blueberry one. It has both fruit and veggies in it. It's so sweet that I add water to it to tone it down. After my coffee, I drink it until late afternoon.
I watch it too, Ramsey's not English!...though my attention span sometimes makes me forget to switch it back, tend to hit the remote during commercials...but then I pick up the gist later...(I do that with a lot of TV though)...
Don't think of HK as a real guilty pleasure, Carol may not remember mine...Mob Wives, now those women are really a trip...& I have known some who are very similar!...
He has another chef show with 2 other chef judges, the italian who is really sarcastic & the fatty who tries to be nice (don't remember its name) & the restaurant makeover show...they did a restaurant in Bpt & Stratford
awhile back..don't remember the name of that one either...
Coreen....
it's called Masterchef.... with Joe Bastianich (yes I googled it) and Graham Elliot.... I LOVE that show too.
Yeah... Gordon is Scottish. I have a friend that teases me by saying he's my secret boyfriend. She called today and said "I see you boyfriend's show is starting tonight".... yup... it is ;)
And just so you know...I do not know how to cook...at all..and most of the dishes on these shows no way would I eat them...
I watch Top Chef too...Fabio was one of my favs from the past...he didn't win, but he has become a minor celeb...& hopefully he is making money at it...
Coreen, did/does your mama like to cook? I can't understand anyone not liking to cook. I like to eat and I'm picky so I need to cook so I can make it MY WAY.
Especially someone of Italian heritage! You must be a mutant.
I am enjoying reading your preferences for beverages. I like a little diet orange crush with my evening meal at home. I order water when eating out.
Coreen, I have my own water bottles and do carry them every where I go. I use good old albuq water out of the tap.
I had some ham hocks in the freezer and soaked us some pinto beans last night and cooked them tonight with the beans. They were not done in time for tonight so they will be in the fridge until tomorrow evening's dinner. I love pinto beans and ham.
Funny, I have never thought of Carol having a southern accent. I suppose that Coreen might think so though.
I always buy a bottle of water before getting on the plane. It urks me that a bottle of water in the airports costs close to $3. Interestingly, a bottle of flavored water with vitamins in it was less than a bottle of plain water in the Asheville, NC airport. I bought the flavored water. It had 200% vit C and I thought that could not hurt.
I do not especially like cooking except those dishes that I have cooked many times and/or something easy.
We were talking on here about Scientology. I found an interesting article in an old Vanity Fair I had laying around here about Tom Cruise and Scientology. It was interesting. The best one was from the New Yorker that you posted Coreen. I could not quit reading it until I finished it.
Well Carol, where I come from there is no requirement that being italian means you come with an apron or a stove...
truth be told some of my friends who are excellent cooks really don't like to cook...any chance they get to not cook...trust me they take it...
Around here you'd be the odd man
out...
Jan, I have friends who have water bottles in their cars, in their
handbags, wherever they go...don't get it since if I drank that much water I wouldn't be able to walk past a ladies room!...
As for scientology, it is quite
interesting as I said that they have such negative press all around them & yet they have so far managed to withstand the scrutiny...I still don't get the
celebs who are part of it...
There is some controversy/mystery around the current leader & his wife or her whereabouts...
Actually, I'm not as much into the work of cooking as I am into eating something I like, the way I like it. I can't any longer endure standing with my arms held out in front of me for long periods. That all changed when I broke my back. Most of what I cook now is not difficult. My salad takes a lot more effort than I like but it has to have each of the required ingredients for me to enjoy it.
After I thought about it for a while, I realized that I never was into the work of cooking, for myself or others. I bet it's the same for many an Italian mama. There can be hours of hard labor over a hot stove or oven but first there's all the shopping and chopping. A ton of work for a few minutes of pleasure.
We might have assumed that many of the people who were known to be good at their cooking and did a lot of it, also loved it when they just wanted people to come over and eat and enjoy themselves. They really just enjoyed making people happy, and that was the same for me. That's kinda a lost art also these days, wanting to make people happy..when it requires work. And often, those who you go to all that trouble for...don't even appreciate it, but often just come to expect it of you. It's not hard to understand why anyone would not want to do that anymore.
Saw a congratulations on the Trail from sjwny to Keith Olbermann. She didn't mention what for. I Googled it. Seems he won his lawsuit against Current TV for his termination there.
I was a big fan of his at one time. He is a good writer and I liked most of his causes. I wrote him a number of times to thank him. He did seem to have a big ego problem and couldn't play well with others.
Rumors have it that he wants back in sports, where he started. What do our sport's girls think about that? Think anyone will have him back? He does have a rep for causing trouble whereever he goes. I don't know if they have enough clauses in a contract that can protect anyone who hires him from what he can end up doing to them and then getting rewarded for doing it.
I also saw that one of the not too frequent, anymore, commenters on the Trail dropped in to complain about all the Catholic bashing that was going on there. True that the criticism doesn't belong to all priests or all parishioners.
I also remember his coming down hard on me once a good while back. I mentioned that I attended this small University area Catholic church for a little while. When they did the invitation to communion one Sunday, I listened to the words of the invitation and it didn't really exclude me so I took communion. It is a no no in the Catholic church if you are not Catholic even though knowing the priest at that particular church, I don't think he would have minded.
Well, the guy I'm talking about jumped all over my shit, saying that I insulted the church. I think it was the other way around. I really think that there's something seriously wrong when a church doesn't invite everyone to participate in communion. It was my feelings that the hierarchy, well above the church level, would also have been OK with it. Hey, I always gave a decent offering when I went to any church. I also didn't do that when I was attending a Catholic church where I knew people would know that I wasn't an official Catholic, out of respect for them.
Renee, I think that all of our parents did good by insisting that we have some religious education when we were young. Churches do teach many good things even if some involved don't actually practice them. I bet that many of those concepts taught in church did influence us in some positive way.
I saw that on C2C last night they had a nutritionist and a cardiologist talking about cholesterol and statin use. I haven't listened to it yet but in the little write up about the show, it seems that they both agree that the statins can cause problems. In one study..."that after taking the statins, some women in the study started showing an increased risk for diabetes..." I recently heard that somewhere else. It often takes years of people taking certain drugs before everything they can do will come out.
Also.."Rather than dietary fats, he pointed at sugar and refined carbohydrates as the real culprits in cardiovascular disease, with surging insulin levels causing inflammation in the small lining of blood vessels. Stress also contributes to heart disease, he noted"
Both agreed on the use of Coenzyme Q10. I used to take it long ago and just forgot. I started taking it again.
My cholesteral level has been higher the last time I checked it. I'm due for another test but I can't find a day when I can do a 12 hour fast and that's a must when you get your cholesterol level checked.
My level was low when I was hyperthyroid but after I got that blasted and my thyroid level dropped, my cholesterol level went up. I knew that was going to happen since I took patho in grad school.
I've always been a little uncomfortable with MY taking the statins and my doc never has pushed me on it. She knows me. I have no problem with the Coenzyme Q10.
I see that "the Sessions" is now at Redbox. Anyone seen it yet? I want to see it.
Did you know that you can get online find exactly which Redbox has it and even reserve it to pick up. Saves you going to a Redbox and not finding what you want to watch.
A disclaimer:
NEVER stop taking a prescribed medication without discussing it with your medical/nurse practitioner. Also do your own research on it.
Recently I've come across some info that is so opposed to everything that I've been taught. I need to do some future study on it before making up my mind.
On Dr Oz, there was this infectious disease specialist saying that stopping an antibiotic is probably a better thing to do when all symptoms have subsided for a while and there are still more pills left in the prescription. He said that most physicians do not know this yet. Dr Oz did consult with other infectious disease specialists and some did concur. I want to check on this more.
The program was on the overuse and misuse of antibiotics and how they are acquiring resistance. They did blame the practitioner for over prescribing and the patients for insisting that they get one when not needed. Something that I have often preached.
Well, I think that I've given you enough to chew on for awhile.
Coreen...
that was a great 2 hours of Ramsey Rambunctiousness... think it's gonna be a fun season.
Carol... I think it's almost impossible to freely give one's opinion on any given subject without insulting someone at times. I don't pay it any mind. OD was just giving his opinion... it's worth the same as anyone's. And, IMO, his offense is his problem.
The other day I didn't tell you guys, as not to give it any power over me, but I kinda reinjured my rib.
I told y'all that I went to get my 40 lbs of bird seed at Sam's. I did OK there. I rolled it onto the top of my buggy, then into my truck, then off the truck bed onto a dolly. That all went swimmingly. Then I went to feed my birds and I had another partially full bag. Those bags are made of a material that is reinforced to make them difficult to get into. It was cut open and I had some scissors right next to the bag. I needed a bigger hole so I tried to tear one open. It wouldn't give but that recently injured rib did. Damn it. I felt it pop like you would a thin metal baking sheet that you would try to bend. Bonk, bonk. I tried to pretend that it was nothing. It started hurting but not too bad. I went about my business, even doing my exercise on my Geselle. Last night it showed me who was boss. That's often what it does. It make take a few days for the pain to really kick in.
Now besides, never lean over a hard arm rest in my truck, I have to add never try to tear a material resistant to tearing, to my list of things not to do. That list is getting pretty long.
I was also wondering if it is my subconscious mind trying to give me another excuse to avoid moving the stuff that I didn't have much of an excuse left not to move. Our subconsciouses will try to help us out in avoiding undesirable tasks at times. I think that mine might even try to kill me rather than allow me to work too hard anymore.
Carol, talking to subconscious mind, leave me alone. I'd rather just feel guilt about not doing something than having pain as an excuse not to do it.
My doctor put me on a statin several years ago. Like I always do... I read all kinds of books and researched them online. I learnt that statins are prescribed differently than most drugs. Usually, one is given the lowest dosage of any drug first... see if it works.... if needed, the dosage is upped. But with statins it works backwards. They prescribe a high dose first... usually 20mgs. Lots of people can't tolerate it... especially women. It can cause debilitating muscle aches.
My whole upper body ached like crazy shortly after taking them. I stopped and called my doctor. When I saw her, I said I'd try them as long as I could start on a low dosage and see how it affected me. I'm on the lowest dosage possible... I feel fine... and it seems to be working for me.
And yes, in my research I did come across the stuff about CoQ10.... I've been taking 100mgs of that daily along with the Zocor.
Carol...
I'm sorry about your rib and your pain. Yeah... it does seem that the universe is giving you a message to stop messing around with stuff you shouldn't be messing around with...
I'm trying to find if any research has proved that glucosamine can improve healing of the cartilage that joins my rib joints. That's where my problem is. While looking, I found this Jan:
"Glucosamine-Like Supplement Suppresses Multiple Sclerosis Attacks, Study Suggests"
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110930123057.htm
You might want to check it out.
Renee, some of this stuff I have to mess with. I have no choice.
Can't offer any proof that gluc/chondroitin heals any part of my body, but have been taking it for years...& while I still have pain, when I first learned of it I was at the point that I was hobbling, not walking & bending just to pick up one of the cat's dishes was agony, that's when I not only switched to wearing only birkis, (trust me giving up my fancy shoes was difficult) but read about g/c...I tried it & while my various pains still are there, I can walk & bend with less pain...don't misunderstand the pains continue...they are arthritic in nature but I
manage better...so far w/o prescription meds...
I could never handle a 50# bag of anything...one of the reasons why I only get 20-25# bags bird seed...which are still difficult to get out of the car into the garage trash cans...
I guess if you try g/c & it gives some relief great, if not, don't think it causes any more harm...
I know one of the pres. meds...its celebrex or cymbalta (whichever is a depression med)(forget which) is now also prescribed for arthritis, but don't have any first hand knowledge if it does help...
BTW Carol...
that early religious training did include learning the tenets of the Catholic faith. I'm sure the rules haven't changed... any priest... and especially the hierarchy would not knowingly give communion to a non Catholic... it is against the tenets of the faith.
It is because Catholics are supposed to believe that their faith is the one true faith. The communion host is the embodiment of the body and blood of Christ... and they believe only Catholics are worthy of accepting it.
That's just one of the many rules... take it or leave it... I chose to leave it.
HK with a twist...don't remember Ramsey throwing out the entire staff except one guy...just on that thought Ramsey would make him the winner...but hey what do I know!...
Have wondered about the HK diners...do they pay for meals?...or are they invited guests?...don't know as it was ever mentioned...not sure I could wait for so long to eat....
And here's an unsolicited stamp of approval for a vitamin/supplement (not sure what it is)Biotin...for helping hair loss...I have had breakage routinely at my forehead hair line(likely from coloring & having baby fine hair) skepticasl but gave it a try...amazingly the breakage has corrected &hair continues to grow w/o breaking off...saw results in maybe a month or so of taking 1 capsule a day...
Coreen...
I've always wondered about the dining guests too. I'm not sure if they pay or not.... but if it were me, I wouldn't pay to be the show's guinea pig and "maybe" get a meal... I would, however, try it for free.
It's early.... sometimes a person I swear is going to be going early.... lasts a long time.
There were lots of first for the show last night.... first time more than 12 contestants (there was 20)... first time "show me your signature dish" done in front of a live audience... first time Ramsey threw out most of the contestants. Can't wait to see next week's show.
Both celebrex or cymbalta have issues, IMO. I'll pass on both.
I'm doing the glucosamine though. I attended this pharm workshop a while back. The PhD who did it was really sharp. I'm pretty picky about who's doing the talking. I also have this intuition that I pay attention to also. It's pretty accurate. He talked about both the Glucosamine and the CoQ10. He recommended both and gave reasons. I'm careful which supplements I take. If I can get adequate amounts in food, I do that. There's more info on the dangers of too many supplements and some supplements are causing more harm than good.
Here's the guy who was on the Dr Oz show. I checked out his credentials and they were very impressive. I don't think there is enough data in to justify changing a long held policy to continue an antibiotic until the entire dose is completed but his explanation does make good sense.
Here is an article from Dr. Oz. He talks about it in this article.
http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/misuse-antibiotics-create-deadly-new-generation-superbugs
From the article:
"On Taking Shorter Courses of Antibiotics
This is a hotly debated topic in the medical community: Should I stop taking a course of antibiotics early if I feel better? Many organizations, including the Mayo Clinic and the Tennessee Department of Health, say no because stopping your course of antibiotics too soon “often wipes out only the most vulnerable bacteria while allowing relatively resistant bacteria to survive.”
However, multiple studies have shown that taking shorter courses of antibiotics for infections like strep throat, pneumonia or UTIs are just as effective as longer courses. Initially, physicians treated pneumonia with a 14-day course of antibiotics. However, that duration became 10 days, then 7 days, then 5 days. Now, there are studies that show that a 3-day antibiotic course is just as effective.
So if you feel 100% better and still have 3 to 4 days left of your antibiotic prescription, call your physician and ask if you can stop. The doctor may say, “Yes, you can stop if you feel 100% better.” However, you should always consult your doctor before stopping your course of antibiotics."
There's a lot of other great info in that article and everyone should read it.
Renee, that refusal to share communion with anyone who is not a member of the church is the ultimate in not being very Christian and I don't think that anyone could come up with a reasonable justification for it. IMHO, Jesus wouldn't have conditions for who he would invite to share his body and blood with. The only justification I can see for the Catholic church is...we want a committment of your attendance and your money before we will share. Bah Humbug.
"we want a committment of your attendance and your money before we will share. Bah Humbug."
Carol... IMO, that nails it...
I have a good friend that is a potter... she swears by the gluc/chondroitin stuff. She's been taking it for several yrs and says she most definitely wouldn't be making pots any longer without it.
And thinking about cooking.... my mother was an excellent cook. She particularly liked to bake. She used to make these homemade donuts that were to die for.... and when she made them... it seemed that every kid the neighborhood knew it and was at our house.
I have her recipe, but have never made those donuts. I like cooking, but was never in love with it. I do like watching the Food Network... but would never go through all the hassle to make everything from scratch. I do love going out to restaurants.
I think that some people have thrown away Jesus because of what man has done to corrupt what he stood for. I think that he was a pretty cool guy.
Do you think that your mom really loved the work involved in her baking or how much others enjoyed the results of it? Many people would have thought that I loved all that work but I think that is just what they wanted to believe
I enjoy the cooking shows also. They inspire me. I do often think that I would do it differently.
Holy Smoke! There's a new Pope.
This new Pope sounds interesting.
Heard he went against others and baptized babies of single mothers because he said Jesus would want that. He's a friend of the poor. He lived simply.
He cooked his own meals and took public transportation. A
Humble man. He sounds neat to me.
Picked name Francis. Patron Saint of animals and the environment.
Make me an instrument of your peace. Loved the prayer of St Francis. Sang that song while everyone else went to communion.
http://youtu.be/czQAnEszjHE
Well... reading the parts of the Bible that are claimed to be Jesus' words are pretty cool....
but... I'm not convinced that he really existed...
I do respect everyone's right to choose (or not) what church they belong to and their beliefs. Solar read me the riot act when I stated that once on TM... but that's ok... he has the right to his beliefs too.... even if I do roll my eyes whenever he repeats them... :)
Carol...
one of my favorite books... believe it or not... is Saint Francis by Nikos Kazantazkis. His most famous book is Zorba the Greek. Nikos' writing is very earthy... you can hear the sounds, feel the breezes, and smell the smells that he describes.
I highly recommend any of his books. My absolute favorite of his tomes is The Last Temptation of Christ. He writes about Christ as an actual human being. A movie was made of the book about 15 yrs ago. The Catholic Church soundly condemned it... assuring that many people went to see it.
Words:
Lord make me an instrument of your peace,
Where there is hatred let me sow love.
Where there is injury, pardon.
Where there is doubt, faith.
Where there is despair, hope.
Where there is darkness, light.
And where there is sadness, joy.
O divine master grant that I may
not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
To be loved as to love
For it is in giving that we receive-
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned.
And it's in dying that we are born to eternal life.
Amen
Now Walmart calls me to pick up a 10 lb book. I guess I'll be doing some more rolling.
Renee...No way he's the 'only' one who gets you to 'roll your eyes'!...
Coreen.... ROFL!...
sshhh ... don't tell anyone that... ;)
I know that I draw a lot of eye rollin but
I can't see it so it doesn't count
Jack posted this link about the new Pope
http://news.yahoo.com/francis-first-pope-americas-193844474.html
From what little I know, I'm kinda impressed with the choice..
All I am saying..is give Pope a Chance.
Carol, your 10# book must be the Red Book.
The new Pope is from Argentina.
The Episcopal church says that anyone who is baptized can receive the Eucharist. John always tells his congregation that anyone who wishes to - can receive the body and blood of Jesus. The Episcopal church is off the Anglican church of England. We believe that there are many ways to God.
Why are you so taken with the new pope selection...
Sounds like a tad of an improvement Coreen.
Jan, right before the Eucharist in the Catholic church, the priest says something like..we are not worthy to recieve these gifts but just say the word..blah, blah, blah. So I said a word and went to communion. No lightening struck me so I figured it was OK.
I just did it at the church that's close to our University. I liked that priest. He had been the priest at SF's church years ago. I think he was gay but not practicing. I attended this little program he did for women, of any faith. He gave us all communion. I'm not sure the Church knew about it.
Actually, of people who attend church often around these parts, Catholics are the most tolerant. They don't get into people's business.
I did go pick up my Red Book. The young fellow who got it for me was a little surprised by the size. I did manage to get it home even with my rattling rib. There's alway a short time when my separated rib rattles around. That's the most painful period. I'm having some trouble breathing. I'll have to wait for a while to start studying the book, when I can manipulate it without pain.
The Church of the River adopts different things from other religions. It's kind of a cafeteria style church. I like many of the Saints and St Francis of Assisi is one who I like.
For communion we use V8 fusion juice and hushpuppies.
Here's hoping God created humor and she's laughing.
Carol, this communion thing...other than the guy at tm
chastising you, did any person at the catholic church stop you from
receiving communion...I would consider the source of the condemnation....
I do not recall ever hearing a priest say anything to suggest that a noncatholic can not participate...
Is there any 'christian' church today that is not an offshoot of the roman (catholic) church at some point or other...
Jan you mentioned episcopals splitting from the church of england, which to the best of my recollection w/o looking it up split from the roman church because henry viii wanted the pope
to annul a marriage so he could marry another (well & another etc)...& when it wasn't done, he simply ordered the english
priests to do his bidding...
hence the church of england with the king taking the place of the pope...
Nope Coreen, no one but you know who said a thing.
Hey girl, guess who my Church's official football team is.
This is from that article that Jack linked:
"In our ecclesiastical region there are priests who don't baptize the children of single mothers because they weren't conceived in the sanctity of marriage," Bergoglio told his priests. "These are today's hypocrites. Those who clericalize the Church. Those who separate the people of God from salvation. And this poor girl who, rather than returning the child to sender, had the courage to carry it into the world, must wander from parish to parish so that it's baptized!"
We can't really criticize a Pope who are against the trilogy...gay marriage, abortion, and contraceptives. They do not set the church doctrine, they just have to protect it.
Carol... if you really want to defend the Catholic Church... go for it, girl...
but I will reserve the right to criticize it if I want...
and a Pope is THE head of the Catholic Church... Popes... and priests... used to get married and have children. Some pope somewhere along the way changed that. They do not just protect doctrine, they make doctrine.... that's what the bit of infallibility is all about.
If women are to become priests... that order will come from the Pope. If the church is to change it's stance on contraception... that order will come from the Pope. Any change to be made by the Catholic Church will come from the Pope.
The church is not a democracy... it is a hierarchical dictatorship.
Have no idea what you are talking about...or who for that matter...
and please of all people to choose to link with comments about anything catholic...talk about eye rolling...
So negative Coreen. Maybe Pope Francis will be a reformer and will change some things. I kinda have a good feeling about him. You know I haven't been a big
supporter of the Catholic church.
And, you know who, didn't write the article about Pope Francis, he just linked it.
Are you talking about my church's official football team? You couldn't guess? The Saints, of course.
If you keep rolling your eyes, they will get stuck that way.
Negative, just calling it like I see it...
You may be under a misconception tht the church wants to change things...
Have to say that most traditional catholics that I know, (those that actually go to mass & participate) don't discuss the issues that you mention...& if I asked them directly they likely would not disagree with the church's stand...
I know the media pushes the idea that American catholics are restless, not in agreement with the church, but not so sure that is the fact...
And no not the Saints, the no one but you know who said a thing...
Found this:
"Hanna, of the Women's Ordination Conference, says she has "a lot of hope" that the new pope will address issues such as gay rights, divorce and contraception, which cause some women to feel excluded from the church.
And, she added, she hopes Francis will reopen the discussion on women's ordination."
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/13/17300722-breath-of-fresh-air-women-religious-welcome-pope-francis?lite
Carol...don't change, keep up those 'high hopes'...
oh & that women becoming priests...when pigs fly...
But just maybe they will get a more important role in the church. The nuns are excited.
And any of the women in the article that claim to be womenpriests were excommunicated by the Church together with any male priest who assisted them...Change?...
Disclaimer...I don't know what I'm talking about but....he already represents some change, as I see it. He's Jesuit and he choose a different name. Maybe it's a trend.
Enough of the church thing for me...almost forgot to let you in on this little bit of history that most people don't know...the wright bro. weren't the first to fly...
Brideport's Gustav Whitehead
first to fly
Carol...
I agree with Coreen... this Pope will not start ordaining women priests, IMO.
I'd just like to see the church stop being so political and stop making a big deal about abortion and no contraception and focus more on justice and being advocates for regular people.
I know a ton of Catholics... hell, I married a man that went to Catholic schools K-12. Most of them ignore the edict on birth control and use some kind of contraception. It'd be nice if the hierarchy just got over it.
Like St Francis
"St. Francis is not only the most attractive of all the Christian saints, he is the most attractive of Christians, admired by Buddhists, atheists, completely secular, modern people, Communists, to whom the figure of Christ himself is at best unattractive. Partly this is due to the sentimentalization of the legend of his life and that of his companions in the early days of the order. Many people today who put his statue in their gardens know nothing about him except that he preached a sermon to the birds, wrote a hymn to the sun, and called the donkey his brother. These bits of information are important because they are signs of a revolution of the sensibility — which incidentally was a metaphysical revolution of which certainly St. Francis himself was quite unaware. They stand for a mystical and emotional immediate realization of the unity of being, a notion foreign, in fact antagonistic, to the main Judeo-Christian tradition.
“I am that I am” — the God of Judaism is the only self-sufficient being. All the reality that we can know is contingent, created out of nothing, and hence of an inferior order of reality. Faced with the “utterly other,” the contingent soul can finally only respond with fear and trembling."
Renee, yes, those catholics I know may not agree about birth control & maybe to some extent abortion
personally but in the overall 'idea' of being catholic, they don't disgree with the church's teachings...
they have 'faith' that their beliefs are yes the true ones...agree or not..& they don't see the church as 'political' in the sense that you & others may...
again I find the criticism of the church to be over the top especially coming from non-catholics, trust me noncatholics attacking the church not about to change a thing...
Two things that I did like about the Catholic church. I liked that they recognized Mary and gave her an important role. Ironic huh. And I liked the other Saints, the ones I knew about.
Y'all can continue to pick on me, take advantage of the fact that I can't even take a deep breath.
Coreen...
Rick left the church because he saw it as too political.
Both his brothers left the church because they saw it as too political. None of their children go to church.
Losing partitioners means losing money... and you do like to remind us that it's always about the money...
I don't expect the church to change because of what I and other non or lapsed Catholics say.... but the money might make a difference. Only time will tell.
I often said a Hail Mary on my way to work. I asked her to hang with me for the day. I did alter the last line of the prayer to....pray for us now and at the hour of our NEED. I didn't want to have to be dead to get a prayer.
Ha!... Carol... I wish you had an edit button...
partitioners... wtf was I thinking.... it's late... I don't do late... of course I meant parishioners...
Didn't particularly want to think about being dead on my way to a jail with murderers.
Coreen, I checked with John and we have not actually split with the Anglican church. We are in communion with the Anglican church of England. We have had some difficulties with the C of E recently because the Epis church ordains women and we currently have a presiding bishop (Bishop of all Bishops in US) who is a woman. Also, the Anglican church of England is very unhappy because we had a bishop in New Hampshire who is openly gay. He retired recently. We have had somewhat of a split in the U.S. Episcopal church in recent years because of these issues. Those who have broken off from the Epis church here are calling themselves Anglicans.
Don't worry about editing. We usually read it like you meant to write it.
The Episcopal church is not a protestant church.
It is interesting that the new Pope is a Jesuit yet calling himself Frances. The Franciscans and Jesuits are my favorite of the Catholic groups. Not sure why. They just seem to live more in this world.
Jan, what I was wondering earlier, was do all 'christian' churches have their origin in the roman (catholic) church...
If I said protestant, that was not my intent...
That would probably be a good John, the theologian, question.
Absolutely Renee, it is always about the money, never get an argument with me about that...
Not sure what the fall off in church attendance here is due too...not sure anyone knows for sure...
For me, I stopped going to mass when the changes were made to the mass itself...I liked the Latin mass, can't stand that they made it more 'protestant' I don't like the jumping up & down, the communal singing, can't stand the handshake or that they added the prostestant end to the our father...(ok so I'm an elitist)...
I liked the sharing of handshakes and the passing of peace be with you.
Time to leave...hope you start feeling better Carol...that not breathing ok is not reassuring...
Coreen, John says not all protestant churches had their origins in the Roman Catholic church. Martin Luther was a Catholic priest. John Wesley (Methodists) was a priest in the Church of England. There is evidence that the Church of England was formed before 200 A.D. The Orthodox Church of Greece originated in Jerusalem around the Apostle James, Jesus' brother. The Martoma church in India originated through the apostle Thomas.
The above is all from John (my husband) not the Apostle, John. LOL>
Coreen, a lot of people think the Episcopal church is protestant. I was just stating a fact. Have not looked back to see if you said that. I don't think so.
I have been enjoying all the comments over at TM on the election of the new pope.
When I get to missing you all - Carol, Coreen & Renee, I just go over to TM for a visit and find you there.
Woke up and caught a little Hardball. Heard that the Republicants were against any gun control at all even thought a majority of the public wants it. Anyone have any rational explanation for that? Does a Republicants even know what the word rational means? I don't think so. I don't think that they are even human. I think they came up with some robutts. Yes I spelled it right. Its short for rolling butts, buttholes. There's no brain or humanity in there. They're scart little people. No wonder you're so negative Coreen. They probably sprayed you with the same gas. Might be a good idea to look to some religion for help.
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