Wednesday, September 29, 2010

Sloan's quilt






Here are pictures of Sloan's t-shirt quilt. I am posting the front, the back and several parts that are most interesting (I think). I will be giving it to her for Christmas. It is reversible. She selected the colors. It was fun to make. I made each section (square) with the front, back and batting in between, and then machine quilted each section separately. The quilt was then put together in columns. After the 3 columns were stitched together, I made a border and put some more batting in for the border. The last part was the binding. I always do a bias binding - that way the binding won't roll and do "funny" things.

142 comments:

jan said...

To prepare the t-shirts, I first cut out the part of the t-shirt I wanted to use, then I ironed fusible knit interfacing on the back of the t-shirts to make them non-stretchable. The next step is to cut out the piece and I use rotary cutters and fiberglass rulers. Then I select the fabric I want to use for the sashing (the strips that are sewn onto the t-shirt squares). It is just a matter of sewing all the pieces together. All of this I purchased at a fabric store.

I took classes in making t-shirt quilts and machine quilting to make the quilt. I also bought a book on t-shirt quilts. I plan to make several more for other grandchildren.

Counting the book and lessons this was a pretty expensive quilt, but seeing her face on Christmas - Priceless!

Carol said...

That's amazing Jan. I was wondering how you dealt with the stretchiness of the t-shirt material. That's the nicest quilt I've ever seen.

And you came thru just in the nick of time. We were just a couple of comments from the witching number.

Coreen said...

Jan, your quilt is just beautiful...it is clear
that your love for your family is quilted into
each piece...

I know that it is time-consuming, not to mention the cost, to create such a wonderful heirloom, but am sure that the reaction when she sees it will be as you said 'priceless'...

You must have extraordinary patience...I love
that you signed it...& guessing did you stitch? the flower as well...
& the border? the rainbow sections on what at
first I thought was white dots on black, surprise to see tiny paw prints...love the
entire look...

Carol said...

I've been looking at it as magnified as I can get it. It's looks very complicated and time consuming to me. Do you have to do all the little curly Qs on each t-shirt area or is that to dress it up more?

Carol said...

I put up a link last night that reported that atheist were more knowledgeable about religion than believers. If you are interested in taking the short religious knowledge quiz, here it is. I took it and scored better than 97% of the public. That surprised me since I do consider myself a believer, well, at least a cafeteria believer.

It was also interesting that Jewish people scored the highest on the quiz, higher than atheist/agnostic.

You will also be able to compare your score to many different populations.

How much do you know about religion?

Carol said...

Did anyone watch ET? It seems Bolton is demanding an apology from Bruno. What do you think? Should he apologize?

I do think Bruno was overly harsh and that may limit some of the people who might want to join this dance contest in the future but I'm not sure he should apologize. He got kinda beat up himself last night and in the press.

Just something else to ponder.

Carol said...

Coreen, I have a question. On the MLB standings it has both Tampa Bay and Yanks with an x by them on the list. The x stands for playoff birth. Does that mean one wins the division and the other gets a wildcard? How can they know that before all the games are over?

I tried to ask Tomato woman that question but she told me that if I wanted to watch sports I needed to learn that stuff. I told her that is what I was trying to do. I know why she said that. She didn't know the answer.

Carol said...

And guys, I heard that Drew Brees hurt his knee. TM told me he was wearing a brace in practice. What else can happen to my boys?

Coreen said...

Yes Carol, the x indicates which teams have
clinched a playoff spot...in this case since
both teams going to the playoffs are in the
same division, depending on how they finish
after Sunday, one would be the division winner,
the other wildcard..

It is more than likely that the Yankees are
the wildcard this year, since with only 4 games
to go, they won't overtake the Rays in the standings...& they are losing tonite...

Didn't you mention that Tomato woman was a Braves fan...if so, I think they may be in the
National League playoffs...or does she like the Rangers?

If Drew's knee is hurt, not a good sign, but
better to protect it during the week & hope
that be gameday, whatever happened will subside...Unfortunately, how a team deals with
injuries is part of the game strategy....

I took the religious test,you did better than
me...I know more than 87% of the public & 7% know more than me...not sure how that works
but that's what it said...I actually scored 80%...

Carol said...

My score was 93. I missed the last question. Didn't have a clue.

Coreen said...

And pretty sure I remember that once one of the
teams in the same division becomes the winner, that team is designated with a y....& the wildcard the x, more
trivia....

Carol said...

Yes TM is a Braves fan.

Carol said...

I took Solar's chocolate test and it worked. I didn't have the energy to try to figure out how it works.

Coreen said...

The important thing about sports is that your
team is in there with a chance to win it all...
like I said...being a Yankee fan (thanks to Mr.
Steinbrenner) I have had the privilege of
celebrating SEVEN world Series, not to mention
the 15 times they have been in the playoffs...

Then she TM should be happy now...& that explains why she hates my guys....just mention 1996 & look out...

Solar said...

Peeking in before work.

Carol,

you can't figure that out unless you are 100% atheist.....Coreen 80% you getting there gal, you getting there......Friday night, you wanna dance with an 100% er ?? later

Carol said...

It seems that it was right after Steinbrenner died that the Yanks started having problems. Hope he didn't take their moho with him.

Carol said...

that was suppose to be mojo.

Coreen said...

Her Braves may not be a lock for a playoff spot yet...but they are pretty close....don't follow the national league, but the Padres
have faded badly...& left an opening which the
Braves took advantage of....so she may be
happy, but nervous til they close it out....

I have friends who are Mets fans & until the Phillies recent dominance in the national east, despised the Braves who always
beat the NY Mets....the only other team Mets
fans hate is...no surprise...my Yankees...

Carol said...

Solar, I figured you would ace the test but are you really 100% atheist? I don't think so. Could be wrong.

Coreen said...

Hey he did it again....where are you Solar...

There is always room on my dance card for you
sir...(even though you have been dancing up a storm at TM lately)....

Carol said...

Agnostic maybe?

Carol said...

Maggie doesn't have a watch but she always knows when 9p gets here. Exactly at 9 she gets up and run to the door to go out before ironing time.

Last night I came in from standing outside looking at the moom. I heard something rustling in the yard so I asked her to go look out the window to see if she saw anything. She got up off the couch, moseyed to the window and looked out. She looked around and came back to the couch with this look that said nada. She's a lot smarter dog than I give her credit.

Coreen said...

She's also pretty smart to not go outside if
there is something bigger than her lurking...
I still worry about that where you guys are....

Solar said...

Hey,

There are none better than the pinks here at the swamp....I like to tease Patsi a lot, and really like her....and Jamie, I was just trying to smoke the peace pipe a little....she and I go at it quite a bit.....she also knows that once that dance was over....all bets are off.....with you pinks here, it is the pure joy of dancing with you......specially YOU..........................wanna know.....hahahahaa

Solar said...

Carol,

100%....if you can get me to believe in walking, talking snakes....pregnant virgins, and Noahs flood stories....than im in.....oh why did god let flies (2) live after the flood? that was pretty mean no?

And were they both males, or both females.....in the insect world, there are species without males....and there were turkey eggs that hatched without incubation, not a word of it in the book of myth..........mmmmmmmmmmm?? sleep well

Coreen said...

Before I call it a night...from a few days ago
for you Solar...did you see the story that
says the wind may have parted the Red Sea for Moses...

Here's the story...
Wind may have parted the Red Sea

Carol said...

Coreen, we don't have to worry about gators where I walk Maggie at night because of the wharfs. We only have a couple of visiting racoons every night. She knows when they are out there. They hide in the trees until we are through walking every night. They only clean up any left over squirrel food. They are like vacuum cleaners. They haven't messed with the bird feeder yet.

Carol said...

Now, I'm not talking about believing in the Bible Solar. That's a stretch.

Solar said...

Coreen,

It was the wind...from an erupting volcano.! And it was the Reid river...they actually found the stables that housed the horses,and Ramses chariots ....I gave the science episode to Patsi, and Chloe, we talked about it over at TM...ok im outta the door now...

Coreen said...

drive safely Solar....

Solar said...

Carol,

Not any of it....too much proof that all the sciences ( they are all coming together now) have....specially Anthropology that disputes it all.....

I do believe what they attribute to what Jesus and Moses was supposed to have said.....but that is all....just common sense to me.....the rest is just pure marketing....

Coreen said...

Carol, I will try to check some of your dock
pics...when you say wharfs do you mean that nothing can crawl/walk up out of the river onto your shore & into your yard because of placement of wharfs?...is the river's edge so
high that a gator could not get up on it? I am trying to visualize it, if that is the case alll around you, I feel more comfortable with
you two walking especially at night...

Chloe said...

Jan, You are so talented. I don't know how anyone could have the and patience and ability to make such a beautiful quilt. I love the choices you made - it's nothing less than a wonderful work of art. Thanks for posting the pics.

... and am so glad to read what a peaceful and restorative trip you had the the springs. Now all you have to do is use your memory to help you replicate that feeling at home. You can do it!

I've been trying to keep up with the posts - always enjoy seeing what you all are up to. Carol, your niece is beautiful, and looks so relaxed in that crystal clear pool of yours. They look like a happy, grateful family, totally in love with their baby.

Emma is getting over an inner ear infection, which has had me stressed out the last few days, but is better now. Other than that, things are going well here in Texas. Been cool in the mornings, but warm the rest of the day. I've dug out my winter clothes (like you Carol) in preparation for what's to come. These mornings have been just cool enough to remind me. I figure it won't be long until I'm complaining about the weather again.

... noticed on the east side of the site map that there's a Mars (Hill), and a Galax(y) star right next to each other. Cute.

Chloe said...

Ran across this the other day, about how our planet would begin to heal. Don't know why I had forgotten about all the grandiose promises, but this brought it all back.


Rise of the Oceans
"Barack claims people will be able to tell their children that his election day could be the moment when oceans will stop rising because of climate change and people stop exploiting the environment." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQNkVmdicvA&feature=related

Chloe said...

... ironic, huh?

Chloe said...

Sure is nice to see Elizabeth Warren finally getting the attention and appreciation she so deserves. I wonder how far she'll move up. Can anyone visualize 'President' in her future? (nah... probably way too honest). http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39426017/ns/politics/

jan said...

Carol & Coreen, thank you for your very kind comments on Sloan's quilt. It was most time-consuming, but it is what I love to do. I did do curli ques on some pieces in the quilt. This is called free-motion quilting. I took a class on machine-quilting and that is one of the things we learned to do. The blue piece with my name demonstrates the free-motion part. Some of the blocks I just quilted in the outlines of the t-shirt. That was lots easier and quicker. This was sort of a practice quilt for all the classes I took. I had to take classes on how to sew on my machine too since I had not used it in so long. It was such fun to do that it was not work.

jan said...

Hi Chloe, I too love Eliz. Warren. She is one of the few people I follow in politics. You are right, she is probably too honest to make it to President, but who knows? Miracles do happen.

Chloe, so good to see you back here.

jan said...

Chloe, thank you for the kind words about the quilt. Sewing and quilting whether by hand or machine relaxes me. I can just lose myself in the process. It is a little like work in that I have to quit a couple of hours before bedtime as I will lay awake thinking about it and planning what I will do next. I follow a pattern a little bit then like to go off on my own designs as soon as I can.

jan said...

Carol, reading what you and Coreen have been writing about your safety where you live. I worry more about 2 legged creatures since you live somewhat remotely. But I know you well enough and feel you are pretty resourceful. You have lived alone most of your life. Does Maggie let you know when someone is close by?

jan said...

Carol, have you ever thought of getting a big mean dog too.

Carol said...

Actually I hardly ever lived alone up until 2003. I most
often had roommates who couldn't afford their own places. Living alone took
some getting used to but once I did, there may be no turning back. Learning to live with another person is hard work if y'all can remember. Maybe not if you are young and in love. One
of those variables is out of the question and most likely the other also but never say never.

jan said...

In my lifetime I have lived with lots of different people. I agree, it is hard work getting used to living with another person. I don't know if I would be up to it again. After living with others, it is difficult learning to live alone too. Living with a dog or a cat is much easier to adapt to. If I were to live alone again, I would get a big dog rather than live with someone else. Lobie was great company. Four years ago, John went to Ark to take care of a church for 4-5 months. Lobie and I did fine. At first I was pretty lonely, but got used to it after about 6 weeks.

jan said...

I think the older we get the harder it is to adapt to living with another person.

thornwil said...

Jan, I love your quilt. Your granddaughter is going to be so happy. As someone who has done sewing before, that was alot of work.

Chloe, So glad to see you back. I hope Emma is feeling much better now. Give her a big kiss from Nanny Mary.

I had my family here for a few days. They had to see so many people who hadn't met Lauren yet so I only got a little time. Any time is better than none.

Carol said...

Jan, I'm not often afraid. I do have a gun, 22, with hollow point bullets. It may not kill anyone, at least for a few days, but they will have a few extra leaks when I'm thru pumping bullets in them. Maggie does bark and they say having a dog around does discourage bad guys. She knows and warns when anything is outside.

Carol said...

Neighbor guy has five big dogs over there. They are my early warning alarm system.

jan said...

Chloe, I am sorry that little Em has had an ear infection. Hope she is recovered now. Did she have to take antibiotics? Is this her 1st ear infection or has she had others?

I remember you don't like cold weather. I am so enjoying the cool mornings.

jan said...

Carol, when I was young, I hated being alone and was scared of the dark. I remember that my grandparents teased me when I was a toddler about the dark. I remember once when I was a teenager being at someone's house and having to walk down a dark hallway to the bathroom and just deciding to wait until I got home to pee. Makes me really mad when adults scare little kids about the dark or other stuff now.

jan said...

Dogs are good about barking when strangers come around. Lobie stopped doing that the last year. I think her hearing and eyesight were going bad.

jan said...

Hi Mary, good to see you back. So nice you were able to see little Lauren for a little while. She is a beautiful baby.

Carol said...

Coreen, I did ask TM about 1996. She said the Yanks sweep them in the last 4 games. I think she said she went to one.

I also looked up the World Series that year in Wiki and it reported that "The 1996 World Series marked the beginning of the New York Yankees' dynasty of the late 1990s and early 2000s." So I guess it was a very good year for you.

Carol said...

Coreen, I was looking at the weather up your way and I think you might be in for some high winds tonight. Batten down the hatches...and make sure you have some fresh batteries. And maybe bread, milk and TP...

Coreen said...

Carol, I have no doubt that a two-legged invader would not get far around you, but I do worry about those 'wild things'....

It is very humid...tropical kind all day...rain
early a.m., then nothing, but they are saying that after midnight, we should expect lots of
rain, like several inches (which I can deal with) & unfortunately high winds (which I dread) but hopefully I will sleep through it
with no tree damage...also supposed to rain
a lot tomorrow into the p.m.

We have all the necessities...but as you know
if no electric, no water!!...but hoping its just lots of caution & it will turn out not more than a rainstorm...

Coreen said...

And 1996....a fantastic fairytale season...down
2 games to none, the Yankees(who were the underdogs before losing 2 in a row) won 4 straight & won it in the Stadium....and here we are again...ready to start the playoffs...

the 1998 Yankees were most impressive but the 1996 year was the most fun...

My one disappointment throughout was that when
Don Mattingly (Donnie Baseball) was playing
they did not win it...he was my favorite (played 1st base) #23...And he was a great Yankee...

Solar said...

Jan,

So sorry for not mentioning what a great looking piece or art that you made.!! I blew it up and will save it to my pics....U should use it as your avatar?

Chloe,

Im also sorry for having missed you.!! Cos I do miss you terrible.....give Emma a big hug for me....Im loving this weather...cool, cool, cool.....cool huh? Later...

Coreen said...

Finally the main stream media is focusing on
the foreclousre disaster that most of us have
known about but no one was listening...

2 lenders now suspend thousands of foreclosures
because of faulty affidavits provided to courts...

Short story...when a person got a mortgage, the
initial lender, turned around & sold it to another lender & on & on...

so the original loan documents that borrowers signed are somewhere but usually can not be produced by the banks trying to foreclose...so they file affidavits in courts to verify that the facts they are claiming are true...

well it turns out that they have no idea if the facts are true since they can't verify them,so this exposure has caused 2 lenders (so far) to curtail all foreclosures....

A mess that has no end in sight...but it does
buy the borrower more time before they have to
vacate the premises...

THESE ARE THE REAL ISSUES THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS FAILED TO REALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT BUT TALK....the so-called helping homeowners act has not helped many people at all...

Good night...
Some foreclosures suspended because of defective affidavits from
lenders

Carol said...

Unfortunately Coreen, those suspensions are probably too late for many.

I've been hearing these news stories about these young people who have committed suicide as a result of cyber bullying. That is so horrible and is what Chloe pointed out with her blog post about the best and worst moments occur within social networks. Sad that some of those moments are terminal. Social networking can be so neat but can also give evil people a bigger platform to perform their evil.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/29/dharun-revi-molly-wei-charged_n_743539.html

360 has been covering some idiot who works in an Attorney General's office in Michigan. This nut case is bullying some young gay college student on a blog, in public and at his home and, so far, getting by with it. The victim is a student body president at a University. The bully works at an attorney general's office. The Attorney General says he can't fire this bully, who works for him, because it is free speech. Oh, they,
Attorney General and aide, are both supposedly Christian conservatives.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/29/andrew-shirvell-assistant_n_743953.html

Carol said...

Hope Emma is all better Chloe. Does she usually have allergies? This season has some pretty powerful allergens flying around. They have hit me and others really hard this year.

Chloe said...

Hi Carol. I agree with you about the allergens this year, I'm just not sure why they've been so bad. (For me, I think it's mostly the drier air that we get as the season gets cooler that bothers me most.) But no, Em doesn't seem to have any allergies that I've noticed so far. She's normally a very healthy little girl, always happy and smiling. It was hard to see her so miserable.


Hi to you too Jan. To answer your question, this is her first ear infection that I know about (she may have had minor ones that didn't have enough symptoms that I would have noticed, because she has a nervous habit of pulling at her ears when she's tired). The thing so bad about this one is that her temperature went sky high, and I was having a lot of trouble bringing it down. We ended up taking her to emergency, because it was in the evening when things got really out of hand (and it came on so quickly). She's still on Amoxycilin for several more days, and is starting to eat again, but I'm watching her closely, because this thing really hit her hard and took a while to bring under control. We have a wonderful emergency room at our closest hospital, and I am so grateful to those people for jumping right on it, and taking care of the problem. The staff there were so kind and reassuring, and so the whole visit went quickly and was such a positive experience. I have so much respect for those in the medical field including you, Carol and Mary.

Chloe said...

Mary, It's so good to see you here. I wasn't sure you were checking in anymore, as it's been a while since I've seen you here. But little Lauren is so beautiful, and I'm glad that you're enjoying being a gramma so much. What a great family you have.

Emma sends a loud smacking kiss right back to you (it's so funny the way they kiss at this age - a nice big wet one :).

Chloe said...

Solar,

I'm have missed you so much too. I've been keeping up with you though, and am so glad that things are moving in the right direction for you. As difficult as they are, changes are such a good thing, and I think you've adjusted and made all the right decisions. That's 'always' such a good thing. The most important thing (at least to me), is to always move forward in some small way each day. It's those backward steps that hurt so much. But I also think that, sometimes, a step back is enevitably a step forward. It's an action (and reaction), and therefore is progress. It's just a little hard to see it that way sometimes. But with the survivors (like you), things will always come together eventually.

I'm happy that you're happy! IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS THAT COUNT - all the rest is just tedious.

Chloe said...

"We have all the necessities...but as you know
if no electric, no water!!...but hoping its just lots of caution & it will turn out not more than a rainstorm..."

Hope it doesn't get serious too Coreen. We have the same problem (on a well). No power - now water, and that's always our biggest problem. We're installing a good size generator this year (finally). I just hope we get it done before the next bad outage comes along.

Hope things don't get too bad for you - you always seem to have a good hold on things though.

Carol said...

With the temps cooler in the morning, I'm having trouble waking up and then when the alarm gets me up, I don't want to get out of bed. I need at least an hour to unfold before getting ready for work.

Carol said...

I woke up with a ponder this morning, yeah, no big surprise. Does "religion" or the concept of God/Jesus/Buddha et al, set our moral compass? If we erase all what we were taught by religion, would society still have the same rules of engagement?

Seems like without any religious influence on society, we would just be using the concepts that animals use, ie only the strong survive/survival of the fittest/rules of the pack. Ya know, like how many of our politicians are behaving these days.

Carol said...

I think that is why the Bible has survived and had the power it has had. We needed some rules to live by. Most of our laws are based on rules established by the Bible.

Chloe said...

"Does "religion" or the concept of God/Jesus/Buddha et al, set our moral compass?"

I never thought of it that way, but I think you're right. As a society, it gives us all some common goals and expectations (and hope). It has it's place, and that may be one of the most common positive features of all religions. It brings people together.

Chloe said...

Ha! I know you're going to show us the other side of the coin Solar. :)

Chloe said...

... one of the many reasons we love you so much.

jan said...

"Seems like without any religious influence on society, we would just be using the concepts that animals use, ie only the strong survive/survival of the fittest/rules of the pack. Ya know, like how many of our politicians are behaving these days."

Carol, a most interesting issue to ponder. I know so many people who are not religious and do not attend church who are nevertheless good citizens in that they are kind, generous, follow laws of the land and give to those less fortunate than themselves. I think it is a lot more than religious beliefs that make us good citizens living in this world with others. I think religious beliefs provide some people with a guide for living and for some a higher power to try and live up to a certain standard. Some people use it as a social system for relationships. It is one way that we separate ourselves from others too. I hate that some use it as a "club" to bully others. When we look at the wars that have happened in all of world history, many have been and are fought over religion. The bible has been used to maintain slavery, control over women, and beating and killing children and women in particular.

jan said...

Hi Chloe, so glad that you had that ER close when Emma's temp was high. When they are this age, they can have high fevers. Wow! that must have been scary for you. The positive thing is that young children heal so fast with the right meds. Glad to hear that this was Emma's first ear infection. It used to scare me to death when my kids had a high fever. I always wonder how we all survived those years. My oldest son had a fever convulsion when he was 9 months old - with a strep infection. I lived in a small town. I was alone with him - his dad was working at night- our small town doc made a home visit - helped me cool my son down with cool bath and gave him a shot of an antibiotic. That does not happen these days.

jan said...

I hope that this will be Emma's only ear infection.

jan said...

Solar, thank you for your kind words about the quilt. I had not thought about using it for my avatar. What a great idea. Thanks for that suggestion. I just may do that.

jan said...

Chloe, I too lived close to an ER when my boys were small. I think back about how fortunate I was to live close to family who were of immense help to me as a very young mother and to a wonderful doc and living close to an ER. So many young mothers I work with do not have any of these resources.

Solar said...

IN the very beginning of society, when farming took hold ( and our down fall) there was just an amusement of our universe.......spirituality of nature....that's why there were so many gods to thank for the Sun, the earth, the moon, the stars, the rain gods that made everything flourishing.....

During all of this time...there were peoples practicing the golden rule...there were morals, or we would not have made it to the farming stage.!

There was also rules of tribes that allowed for evolution to take place....it is innate in us not to interbreed, (Although some do, against nature)

There were maybe 300 written and unwritten laws that were copied by those that wrote the books in the bible...they were all stolen from the past gods......and then the one true god was born.....he was and is a marketing tool.!!

When you watch certain animals.....lets say a wolf pack....you can see that morals are innate in them...and some birds....and others...

I use the story about the German Soldier that had the job of executing his fellow human beings ....the Jews.....while at the same time....he went home to his wife and kids...was a great father to t hem.....

Did he have morals....yes but only toward his tribe...his family....and the ideas that his religion, his mind infected with the ideas that the Jews were animals to be executed was training of the mind.....

But he did have morals...but only for those that were deserving....and there for in the long run....he was breaking every rule, law that his one true god made.......

We only need one rule...the golden rule....and I do think that what they attribuete to Jesus, and to Moses....what they say the said, worth thinking about, and practing.....but it was all written way before religions were thought off.....

They were, and are also used to control society as a whole...as crowd control.....

Religion is fervent hope that we will live forever......but only the ones that practice the one true faith........

Jan, Covered the rest very well.....read the history of the Popes, you will never think about religion and morals at the same time.....a guarantee it......

Solar said...

amusement = amazement

Carol said...

And where did the golden rule come from?

"The Golden Rule, as a concept, has a history that long predates the term "Golden Rule" (or "Golden law," as it was called from the 1670s[6]).[2] The ethic of reciprocity was present in certain forms in the philosophies of ancient Babylon, Egypt, Persia, India, Greece, Judea, and China. The "Golden Rule" however usually refers to the saying of Jesus of Nazareth: "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them." (Matthew 7:12, see also Luke 6:31) The common English phrasing is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

Wikipedia

My theory is that a purpose of the Bible was possible as sort of a rule book. They didn't exactly have a police force or Sheriff's Dept in every community.

Carol said...

God's rules were pretty rough but then Jesus came along and said, I'm gonna cut you some slack. And if that still isn't enough I'll clean your slate if you believe in me and apologize.

And of course it was man who was the scribe. And man was mellowing over the years.

Carol said...

And Jesus could probably afford to forgive because there were a few more law enforcement agencies available to take care of the really bad guys and that forgiveness can take affect after you get out of the clinker or in the hereafter.

Carol said...

Your welcome to come up with your own theories but I kinda like mine.

Carol said...

And Jan there are many good people who don't believe in the Bible, maybe better, but their lives were still influenced by it/religion unless they were raised by wolves in the wilderness or raised in a remote tribe in the wilderness.

Carol said...

I see that tomorrow you will have a double header Coreen and some nice weather to play those games.

Solar said...

What they attribute to Jesus is one thing...what he was is another....he was just one in a long line of war like Messiahs....the dead sea scrolls explains some of his early childhood....Anthropology and historians tell a different story about him......he was just cleaned up and used after his death.....

Many things come into play during his time..and afterward....the early Christians were an underground occult...

People think as Mesopotamia as an ancient village....actually it was a thriving civilization, a society that had laws that came before them.....and a long, long way from when the bible was written......

The trouble with wiki.....I never use them....they are not a very good source.....in order to get to the truth about anything....we need to go a lot further......

I lost information about the 300 laws that were in practice way before the bible was even thought about.......you can't get to Rome, and when Jesus was born.....and not have any moral laws before him.....no theory involved...later....

Coreen,

Yes there will be a little help to homeowners...late as it is.....I did help someone stay in their home for almost two years...but he did eventually have to leave....

Also after reading a lot of information about how paper work was sold from one bank to another...and reading some lawyer blogs...I asked the ( city group) lenders of his home for original paper of who owned the house...they could only show a copy.....they did chase it down...but six months later......later.

Carol said...

Chloe, got a favor to ask. Would you check this out and see if we want to be involved and how we do it if we choose to be involved. Saw it mentioned by Jamie on TM. This includes the rest of you also.

http://mimiwrites.blogspot.com/2010/04/announcing-blogblast-for-peace-2010.html

Carol said...

I don't understand Solar and you are welcome to try and explain it to me. Won't be an easy task. I am not very knowledgeable about the Bible, just a few things that I picked up here and there. Most of what I've said is just from the gut and it has gotten fairly congested in my old age.

Carol said...

Hey Solar, I'm no student of the Bible, just what I picked up in Sunday school and church when I was young. That year after mom died I went every week to the Catholic church with SF. It was part of my grief management program. They always read several Bible verses during the Mass. Since the Priest was not very entertaining, I'd spent my time there pondering those verses, trying to figure out what in the hell, I mean heaven, they were trying to tell me. I seldom could figure it out, I don't think the Priest did either since his sermon was suppose to be based on one of them and it didn't make much sense either.

Carol said...

Did y'all hear that Rick Sanchez got canned from CNN. He made a remark on some radio show about Jon Stewart and his bosses and was canned PDQ. I just read that CNN was looking to clean house anyway and Rick, with the comments he made, must have wanted to get it over with. I wonder if he can get a job on Fox?

Also heard that Anderson will be doing a daytime talk show. I guess he wanted a back up job just in case. I don't think 360 is going anywhere yet and it is about the only thing I watch on CNN. It's usually my ironing entertainment.

Chloe said...

I am sorry to hear that about Rick Sanchez. He's Craig's buddy - Craig was appearing on his show the last I heard.


BlogBlast For Peace
Carol, I think this sounds like a very nice idea, but I don't have or work with photo shop or any of those programs. All I have is Windows Live Photo Gallery, and there's not much you can do with that, except crop, and things like that. It would probably take someone more artistic like Jan, or anyone else here that feels particularly inspired.

Chloe said...

.... I've run across that 'Mimi's Writes' blog before. She does a beautiful job with it.

Chloe said...

"It used to scare me to death when my kids had a high fever. I always wonder how we all survived those years"

Jan, That is the first thing that struck me when I took on the responsibility of raising Emma - those memories of all te illnesses they eventually go through (especially when they start school). The high fevers, the visits to the emergency room - even all those vaccinations they have to get (sooooo many more than there used to be). It is an indescribable (sometimes overwhelming) responsibility, and seeing them sick is much harder than being sick yourself (not that you don't end of catching a lot of the same illness from them yourself).

You know better than I what's involved in raising one of these beautiful little 'beings'. It's all encompassing. I've never seen a fever convulsion (like your son had) - I'd be terrified. And for you to be alone - I don't know how you got through it. TG your doctor came to your house. You'll never see anything like tat again.

What yous said about many young mothers not having the resources we had back then though, I don't know. Medicine and medical care has come so far. You know longer have to wash diapers (and that's a HUGE improvement - I don't even remember if they had the disposable wipes back then?). There are many more conveniences to help with baby care than there used to be. Not to even mention all the advice and help you can hunt down on the internet. There are many things that make it easier now than it used to be.

Chloe said...

"And Jesus could probably afford to forgive because there were a few more law enforcement agencies available to take care of the really bad guys and that forgiveness can take affect after you get out of the clinker"

I'm forever grateful to our law enforcement officers. What a rotten job that is. You're actually in both fields Carol: Medical and Law Enforcement (or at least (so called or hopefully) rehabilitation). What a responsibility.

Carol said...

Ya know Chloe, as a family NP, when I worked in a private practice setting I had to take care of the little ones also. That was scary but fun. Even so, if I had one of my own.....I'd probably have a camper in the parking lot of an ER.

Coreen said...

Good morning...What a difference a day makes..rain left...& it is 58 as the sun comes over the trees...

Yes, Carol, it will be a long day, 2 games, 1 of which will be on Fox nationally...& could
be a good thing or not....since the Yankees
are now ahead of the Rays by 1/2 game....should
be interesting...

Your call on blog for peace...since you mentioned it, would seem you are interested in
adding your voice to the symbolic idea...so if
that is what you want to do, you should do it..

Coreen said...

As far as CNN firing Rick Sanchez...while the
lead stories suggest it was for calling Stewart a bigot, it seems that his foot in mouth comments that went on about the
northeast elites, Jews, relating all through Stewart & his heritage etc...were the real
reason for the firing...he just couldn't shut his mouth about what he beleives & that likely
did not sit well with those who run the media...

Sanchez for me, seemed to speak w/o necessarily
thinking of the words that came out of his mouth & often sounded well just dumb...& his
comments on the radio show reinforces my perception of that....

Carol said...

It was a slippery slope when news started including opinion. Then it got even worse when having an outrageous opinion started getting popular, ie Glen Beck, et al. Then even worse that the comedy news became so popular. Those anchors are probably very confused as to what to do to keep an audience. If the anchor's opinion doesn't line up with their bosses or their humor isn't really funny, or they are outrageous in the wrong way, watch out. Only some of the people on Fox can get by with that. Rick seemed to try to go that extra mile to get the attention he needed, actually often putting his life on the line.

Rick is a member of a minority group but he picked on another minority group which, ironically, brings up another aspect of that Golden Rule we've been talking about. He shouldn't have messed with the people who have the gold and make the rules. Didn't he learn from what happened to Helen Thomas.

Carol said...

Coreen, I was writing my comment while you were writing yours. Morning. It's really cool here this morning.

Carol said...

This weather we've been having lately is a gift from God and it is forecast to continue for next week. I'm gonna get that boat out and do some fishing this weekend. The fishing is great right now, and from where I can now manuver, I have a choice of both fresh and salt water. The reds are biting down river and the Crappie up river. It will just be a hard decision of which way do I go.

Carol said...

I'm also taking Monday off to take full advantage of everything.

Coreen said...

Carol, great idea..put the gone fishin sign up
& enjoy...

jan said...

Carol, Have a great weekend fishing.

jan said...

Interesting comments here about Rick Sanchez. I don't follow the news much but I agree with you Coreen and Carol. Makes me wonder if he was wanting to get fired based on his comments.

jan said...

Carol, many of you nurse practitioners have replaced the docs who were our family docs back in the "olden" days.

Chloe, I was not a nurse when my boys were small. My mother was my primary source of information about childhood illnesses. As I said before, I don't know what I would have done without her with my 2 oldest. The only immunizations that were around then were the dpt's and polio. There were none for measles, mumps, rubella and chicken pox so my 2 oldest had all of those. The measles was the worst. When they had measles, my mother stayed home from work and helped me care for them. Good nursing care was so important for measles - which lasted about 2 weeks. The complications from measles could be really bad.

Carol said...

I think one of the things that Rick was trying to point out, even if was a dumb thing to do, is that just because you are a member of a minority group, you aren't automatically a victim these days. Like, the 2% of the richest people in the country are in a minority group but certainly aren't victims. Unfortunately, he bit the hand that fed him. Sometimes we open our mouths and sh-- flies out that we would rather hadn't.

Kinda interested in hearing Solar's take on this.

Carol said...

But those 2%, minority, of the richest people in the country have certainly gotten the rest of us to rescue them even if we had to do it by giving up our homes, jobs and our, took a life time to put up, savings. We do take care of some of the minority groups in this country. But don't worry, one day it will tinkle down on the rest of us.

jan said...

Balloon Fiesta is this weekend and next week. Lots of out-of-staters in town. Got a call from a child-hood friend yesterday - she and her hubby are with an RV tour. We are meeting them for lunch. Have not seen her in years. Should be fun.

Solar said...

Carol,

I trust yours and Coreen's interpretation of how the Rick Sanchez thing went down. Your are right, he bit the hand that fed him...but he was also an opinion commentator....just like Jack Cafferty......he says the stupidest things all the time.......just not against Jews, or any criticism of the AIPAC lobby.

I don't get any news from the late night clowns....we made them the power that they are now....just by listening to them.....

I havens listened to any cable news now for 3 months, and will continue to get my news from the internet, pbs news hrs, and npr.....no need to dumb it down to me.....

The minority thing is a can of worm....but will think about it and answer....but like all things....I will be looking at how things developed ......history is the only true way of gingering an unemotional response...

Rick S. was right to a certain extent....but he can't possibly address this subject in less than a weeks of work, and make it a special series......like Chritane Amanpours......three hr series of Gods Soldiers.......

It broke down the three main religious organizations....Jew, Christian, and Muslim....and did a FANTASTIC historical account on them both.......and still did not cover it all......just a great way to educated the public.......we need more of this, and less of the court jesters......let them entertain us more, than educate us about things.....but in the long run....it is our collective faults....about the only show that makes a true attempt to educate us....is the Bill Maher show..........

There is now way that a show like David Letterman, should be able to make a sitting senator like Mccain grovel on his show......way too much power......

About your other questions..will get back to you on those also....

Carol said...

Hope no one saw the end of the LSU game or any of the rest of it either. We won, don't ask questions. But let me give you a hint. There was some voodoo involved at the end.

Chloe said...

"Your call on blog for peace...since you mentioned it, would seem you are interested in
adding your voice to the symbolic idea...so if that is what you want to do, you should do it."

I completely agree Carol. I think it's a great idea, and that you would do wonderfully with it. Look how creative you were to set up this blog on your own.

Chloe said...

"He shouldn't have messed with the people who have the gold and make the rules"

.... another Golden Rule!


"Sometimes we open our mouths and sh-- flies out that we would rather hadn't. "

You're telling me! Story of my life.

Chloe said...

"Got a call from a child-hood friend yesterday - she and her hubby are with an RV tour. We are meeting them for lunch."

That sounds like fun Jan. Bet a lot of old memories come out during that visit.

Also, are you going to the Balloon Fiesta. If so, I hope you take pics again to share with us. They were great last year.

Chloe said...

"I havens listened to any cable news now for 3 months, and will continue to get my news from the internet, pbs news hrs, and npr"

I agree Solar.
What I don't get from the internet, I often get from you guys here at the Swamp. People here have a much less slanted view of things than anywhere else I've seen. And you all seem to back up what you say with facts and reason that make sense.

I love that we can disagree and be OK with that.

jan said...

Chloe, we didn't go to the balloon fiesta today. I was windy this morning and it was predicted that balloons wouldn't fly - but they did. It is raining here now I doubt we will go this year. We are leaving town thurs and I work mon thru wed. orienting the new nurse. I am "bushed" and am going to get as much rest as I can before thurs.

It was such fun seeing my friend today. John came and so did her husb and oldest daughter. We had some fun catching up and sharing old memories. It was good for my soul.

Sorry about pics of balloons. this would be a good year to go. It is much warmer out there than in previous years.

jan said...

The air was also windy LOL.

Carol said...

Jan, I hope you get some more pics of the Balloon Fiesta to post.

Carol said...

Sorry, I posted that before I saw the new comments.

Carol said...

"You're telling me! Story of my life." Me too Chloe.

Ever since I heard about Sanchez getting the boot, my heart has gone out to him. I didn't particularly like him or watch him very often. I know that Craig seemed to like him and was on his show several times.

I really think that Rick might have had a lot of pent up anger toward Jon Stewart and that may have set him off on that radio show. When you hold in a lot of anger for a while, one thing may finally set you off and then you regurgitate a lot of stuff you might not even really mean.

Stewart often picked and made fun of Sanchez. He did it pretty frequently. You could even call it bullying. It is interesting that Anderson Cooper is doing a series on bullying but I doubt he thinks about how Sanchez, one of his fellow anchors, could also be a victim of it.

Carol said...

I broke my cable news addiction a good while back but I will tune into a little Morning Joe while I'm getting ready for work and see a little of Ratigan sometimes when I get home and a touch of AC 360 while ironing. Still, nothing like I used to do and for none of them am I sitting down and seriously watching.

Don't really care for Joe and Mika, I like way Ratigan goes after the idiots and I think Anderson has a good heart and has been a good friend to Louisiana.

Carol said...

I'm up, it's pretty cool and windy outside and dark, very dark. I like to fish but I'm kinda a fair condition fisherperson. That comes with old age, well at least for me.

I'm still thinking about Sanchez, maybe because the issue of bullying has been in the news lately. And I mentioned that I thought that Jon Stewart was bullying Sanchez. What contributes to a person being a victim of bullying?? Two things that I can think of is that they are different and maybe trying too hard to please.

Sanchez seemed eagar to make a name for himself. Most of you might remember when he allowed himself to be tased by the police on tv. Stewart played that clip many times and laughed. I doubt that Stewart would have had the balls to do that for a news story.

Sanchez also submerged himself in a car that was sinking underwater to show people how to get out and was intentionally left at the top of a snow-covered mountain to convey the difficulties of surviving the elements. None of the cool guys, who were always making fun of Sanchez, would have had the balls to do those things.

And two others, Maddow and Olbermann, who also think of themselves as the cool kids, have jumped in to take a dig at Sanchez. Neither of them would have had the balls to do any of those things either. I doubt Keith would even get his fingernails dirty for a news story. Rachael probably would.

Carol said...

Well, I'm headed out. Found a fishing partner. Hope I can fight the gale force winds out there. Can't put this off any longer.

Coreen said...

It was 46 at 7 am here...now its cloudy,chilly & the wind is blowing...a definite change....would not be a great day for boating
here...the sound would be gray & choppy....

Coreen said...

Will the Sanchez/Stewart dustup cause you to not watch Stewart et al...since all of them
do what they do (whatever their shtick might be)for one reason...to get ratings so that they
continue in their job & to make a very, very
good living....

In this case Stewart used Sanchez to push his
ratings...for laughs...Sanchez apparently took
offense &

Coreen said...

hit the enter key too fast...

when Sanchez foolishly responded w/o thinking
he lost...

Hasn't stopped the 'in crowd' from piling on...
Maddow/Olbermann....2 poor excuses for entertainment...Keith should have stuck with
sports...BTW, Keith is a big Yankees fan....
& what are the chances that Stewart will not
respond on his show this week....do you think
he might take the high road & let it go!!!....

jan said...

Carol, I am sorry about pics of balloon fiesta this year. We did not go this morning and I have to be at work early every day the next few days. We are leaving town on thurs. The balloon fiesta does go on through next weekend but we won't be here. We have to go to OK for meeting with atty next mon. I also am seeing my grade school classmates on sat morn. They have been having a reunion every year and this is first one I have been able to attend. Its only the girls. There is something about those early "girl" relationships that has stayed with me through the years. So many memories there. I really want to go to this one. I left that group my last 3 years of hi school to go to another school but just love those girls that I spent 9 years of earlier school with. I am looking forward to that. Not looking forward to meeting with atty. But trying to just "let it be" as the song goes. If you see this Coreen, I could sure use some words of encouragement such as "attorneys put their pants on just like the rest of us" This is a new atty and I don't know him but he comes highly recommended.

jan said...

You all have been making some interesting conversation about the Sanchez/Stewart thing. I need to watch more of this on TV so I can keep up. Like Chloe, I get a lot of my news here on the Swamp.

Carol said...

Hi guys, just dropped in. Too windy to fish but it is beautiful out there. Sunny skies and cool. Can's ask for much better except for much less wind. Seems that the Fall is usually windy.

Boat worked well and it scoots along. I haven't even opened her up yet because I'm not suppose to for the first 10 hours of running time. Need to break her in.

I'm gonna hang out with some of my RR friends down the road but I came back to the house to do a few chores and check in on the Saints game. My friends aren't FB fans.

The Saints brought back one of their old kickers, John Carney, and he just kicked a FG. We lost the game last week because the kicker missed.

Ya know what Coreen, I don't want to watch Stewart right now. I'm seeing him in a new light. Don't think he will be the better man, he has already responded to the Sanchez firing with some snarky comment. It's not like Sanchez is a Glen Beck, he's just kinda a eagar duffus at times. That's not a good reason to bully and make fun of him.

Since before the last big election, liberals turned vicious. Y'all noticed that also. I really thought that we above that. Guess I thought wrong.

Carol said...

And Jan, my advice when dealing with attorneys and Coreen may want to rebutt this advice. I've had significant experience in having to use an attorney and I always won my cases. The secret is..provide all the necessary facts and help direct the case.

Lawyers know the legalease, all the rules and such but they don't know the facts of the case like you do. I always did all my research, even wrote all my own questions. The attorney just provided the the legal expertise. I always won.

I've had several friends/family who just dumped the problem in the lawyer's lap, didn't do their homework and they lost cases I felt like they really should have won. I tried to tell them but they just thought that it was the lawyers job to do everything.

jan said...

Thanks Carol, good advice! I have provided the atty with all the necessary papers and a written narrative (from my perspective) of all the happenings and facts, etc. The meeting is to fill in any gaps and to let him know what I would like to happen. Also for him to tell me what else he needs and what he thinks may happen.

jan said...

Have fun today Carol.

jan said...

We are having a beautiful day here too. The high will be in the 70's - my kind of weather.

Carol said...

Jan, you are not missing anything by not watching cable news. You are better off.
I often think of cable news as a soap opera. Those anchors aren't real news people. How many of the real news people of the past made fun of or even complained about the anchors on other news programs.

One day we will be very sorry that newspapers are disappearing. We do have the Internet but not everyone has it and some people don't care for computers.

Probably one day all newspapers will just be available on one of those Kindle like devices. Everyone who wants to read the paper will have to have a device, just like we all need cell phones now. Just select the paper you want to read, it's sent to your device and you are charged. You can get the paper from anywhere. Saves in gas for delivery or going to get the paper. Also will save the trees. I know that the Kindle already does have some newspapers available for download.

Chloe said...

Carol, I think people that don't use computers at all, probably get their news from TV anyway, and local TV at that. If they don't use a computer, they probably aren't all that interested in DirecTv, etc. either (imo). I'm not sure newspapers are all that more honest than TV news anyway.

The Kindle is basically a computer too, except more compact and of course less useful. Those same books can be delivered to your laptop just as easily. But your idea that all information will be delivered electronically is true, no doubt.

Chloe said...

Jan, Good luck with your attorney visit. I think Carol gave you some excellent advice. Stay on top of things, and don't take anything for granite. At least you'll have a better idea about what to expect after that meeting.

It's nice that you're going to have that reunion with your old school buddies too. I hope you have a great time catching up and reminiscing.

Have a good trip. Hoping you'll keep in touch.

Chloe said...

Supposed to be 47 here tonight, but almost 80 tomorrow. Should be about the same all week. We didn't have the wind here (for whatever reason), like you had Carol. I have to say, it doesn't get much nicer than this. Most of the insects are gone (or at least a 'lot' less), so that makes it must nicer spending time outside too.

Chloe said...

... I really enjoyed the weekend. Got quality time with family, but also got to get out and do things by myself. I really need that. I'm recharged and ready to start the week.

Chloe said...

Hope you all had a good weekend too!
See you tomorrow.

Carol said...

Chloe, I'm glad you got a little me time today. Now what did you do with your me time? Let me guess. I bet you went shopping. It's probably not very easy shopping for yourself with a little one in tow. Did you find anything?

Chloe said...

Carol, You know me so well. And you're right, it's getting almost impossible to spend very long in even the grocery store at the age Emma is right now. She's a very active little girl, not all calm and sitting quietly in a shopping cart or stroller. She wants to get up and goooooo.... (as fast as she can).

I've actually been getting a little me time every weekend lately, and I treasure it. I did buy myself some new warm clothes yesterday, for these cold mornings and what's to come in not too much longer. I don't shop at the mall though (at least not often, except for maybe the Disney Store, when we have Emma there). I'm happy at TJ Maxx, Target or Ross - or online.

It just felt so good to be footloose and fancy free, and I got loose for a while both days. I do love shopping for new clothes - it's one of my favorite pass times (my form of fishing :). I even enjoy the solitary drives, listening to my favorite music - and of course, pondering..

..... IT'S ALL ABOUT THE little things.

Chloe said...

It's interesting that not only the U.S., but now Japan is warning about the danger of travelling to Europe. It sounds like France and Germany may have to get a little more involved now, than they've been (or at least they're going to be more active affected by it).

I see that Britain is on high terrorism threat level right now, but why can't I find what it is 'in' the U.S. right now? It must be on high here right now too, huh?

.. you can sure tell I haven't been following much in the news, except for the headlines (and a few other things).

Chloe said...

Here it is

Homeland Security Advisory System
Current Threat Level
October 4, 2010
* The United States government's national threat level is Elevated, or Yellow.
* For all domestic and international flights, the U.S. threat level is High, or Orange. See the Transportation Security Administration for up-to-date information on items permitted and prohibited on airlines.

jan said...

Chloe, so good to hear you are getting some "me" time. I used to love shopping for clothes. Was one of my favorite past times. Good for you. Your little Emma is at an age where they are soooo active. I identify. I do screening with children this age - develpmental screening and when I am finished I am exhausted. The positive thing is Emma is keeping you young and you probably don't have to be concerned about exercise LOL. I never had to think about exercise when I had toddlers and preschoolers.

Well, I am off to do a screening with a 2 1/2 year old. I like to do them in the morning when I am at my best.

We just had our wonderful tree in front "crowned" We just were not emotionally ready to take it out. I hope it does better this coming year.

Chloe said...

"I never had to think about exercise when I had toddlers and preschoolers."

You've got that right, Jan. Thanks for the words of encouragement. Keeping her challenged and entertained is my biggest 'challenge'. Although, she is still good at finding plenty to do on her home too. Unfortunately, that usually involves tearing the place apart - literally!


Glad to hear you had your tree crowned, and are giving it another chance. Did the tree guy make any suggestions? Those tree feeder spikes seem to help a lot, or at least when I used to use them, I thought they did. Lots of nutrients and lots of water is about all you can do.

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