Sunday, February 23, 2014

Gracie and Harriet

Since no one else has put up a post, I will do this one. The pictures are of Gracie (the dog) and Harriet (the cat). My Sister in law had to put 15 year old Gracie down a few weeks ago. She was very ill. Gracie's long time friend, Harriet, comforted her the last few days of Gracie's life. Gracie has a piece of cloth around her middle because she has had trouble standing up for past year and needed help. RIP Gracie.




159 comments:

jan said...

Hope these pictures and description are not too sad for anyone here. Gracie lived a long and productive life. She was loved unconditionally. She traveled and lived in several countries: Honduras, Peru and 2 cities in Mexico, and of course, Little Rock, AR. I read recently that the only thing wrong with dogs is they don't live forever.

RebelliousRenee said...

Jan… thank you for showing us Harriet and Gracie… what a nice tribute to the dog. The problem with ALL pets is that they don't live forever. RIP, Gracie.

RebelliousRenee said...

Jan…
I too really loved watching Meryl Davis and Charlie White in the ice dancing competition.

There has been controversy in judging the skaters for a long time. The IOC has done a fairly good job in trying to come up with a specific system for judging, IMO. They now give scores based on very specific criteria and each judge must be able to back their decisions.

I agree that the Korean girl has a smoother and more artistic style. The Russian girl has a much more athletic style. Yes… jumping is very important. Every skater knows this. The free skate is 4 minutes long. Jumps that are included in the second half of the program are given higher scores because they are harder to do when one's legs are getting tired. The Korean packed all her jumps into the first 2 minutes. The Russian did several near the end of her program… therefore she received higher points for a technically more difficult routine.

The judges do give points for artistic style… but the jumps and when they are done count for more points. Some people don't like this… but every skater knows this when designing their routines.
IMO, the Koreans were displaying sour grapes when their girl didn't win the gold.

I too prefer the Korean's style of skating. But I think it's important that every skater gets judged by the same criteria and everyone knows what they are going into the competition.

Chlo e said...

What a wonderful Gracie was, Jan, and happy to know that she had the life she deserved... one filled with love.

How is Harriet doing? When 2 beings are that close, it can be really hard for the one left behind. Hope she's coping well. (How old is Harriet? She looks young and spry).

Thanks for the post.

RebelliousRenee said...

When I do my 9 day fair in August… I get an on site booth score much like an Olympian. Three jurors inspect every booth and have a list of criteria to judge and they must be able to back their decisions. The scores for each booth will be totaled and averaged. My score will depend on my being able to do the fair the following year and where I can be placed. I know this sounds harsh… but this is a professional fair and we all back this system. People from all over the country come to this fair because of the level or each crafts person mastery of their chosen craft and professionalism.
We want sloppy booths and work weeded out.

All any of us ask is that the judging be done as fairly as possible.
One year I received a low score from one juror because my booth is painted yellow and she didn't like the color. The jurors are now told they cannot judge our booths based on the color. I (and everyone else) appreciate knowing exactly what we will be judged on and that our score will not be based on someone's preference.

jan said...

Renee, thanks for explaining the scoring of the figure skating.

We have been watching the replay and discussions and interviews of the Nancy Kerrigan and Tonya Harding issue 20 years ago.

I remember all of that.

jan said...

Chloe, I think Harriet is doing well. I think she is about 5-6 years old. I don't know how she is doing as far as the grief process. My SIL and her husband (John's brother) are going through a divorce. What I shared with you is from fb. We are on good terms with my SIL but do not have real contact with her. She is a good person as is my BIL. Things just did not work out.

jan said...

Renee, How interesting about the judging on the color yellow. I suppose in any judging, there is bias and subjectivity, no matter how objective the criteria. It is good the judges for booths can no longer base their judgments on color.

Chlo e said...

Jan, I'm sorry for that what that family must be going through, including Harriet. I believe pets feel these things as much as children.

Children and animals just don't have the rationalization skills we adults (hopefully) have. Even with the defense mechanisms we adults have developed, it's still can be almost impossible to make it through these things without almost unbearable pain and damage.

Chlo e said...

Love hearing about your craft and your business, Renee. It's so fortunate when someone has the ability and chance to do what they love, and then does it.

I couldn't help but think that if someone has that personal prejudice against a color (yellow, or whatever) or something else, that they won't (possibly) find a way to take off points in some other way.

As Jan says, it (everything, imo) is subjective. And as Jack (TM) often points out, perception 'is' reality. That said, it sounds like a very good and fair solution you guys have set up, and am glad to hear how well it is working.

Chlo e said...

Hope you enjoyed your Eggs Benedict yesterday (not sure Rick had the same).

Now, got to get Emma going and on her way!

Coreen said...

Nice remembrance of a cherished family member Jan... Harriet is a calico, 2 of my girls are calicos, & until they came along never knew that calicos are just about always girl cats...don't know why, but that seems to be the case...

RebelliousRenee said...

Chloe…
Rick is an omelet man… and he prefers his with lots of veggies.

Coreen… from what I understand about calicos and torties… is that the gene for tricolor is carried 99% of the time on the female side. I've been told you can have a calico or tortie male… but it is very rare.

Chlo e said...

Had a nice phone conversation with Carol this morning. She wants to let everyone know that the reason she hasn't been here much is because she injured her right wrist in a minor boating accident over the weekend.

The typing just keeps getting more difficult and the pain worse. But, to me, she sounds so good and as sharp and optimistic as ever.

She is pleased to find out you put up a new post, Jan... and like us all, grateful. Thanks.

Chlo e said...

I've never seen a calico male, but have noticed a little of that orange color in a couple of them over the years (one that I have now).

I noticed that the one's with the orange are slightly temperamental, nervous... don't know what to call it, but that characteristic that most calico's seem to have in common. They are such beautiful cats.

I've not throughout the years that color seems to be a common thread in certain cat temperaments... maybe just in my experience. Black long hairs (to me) seem to be easy going and gain weight easily. Black short hairs seem athletic and independent, but very loving... and so on. Oh, and a lot of strays (no where near all, though) seem to be long hair tabbies (with every darkish color imaginable).

Has anyone else made similar connections?

Chlo e said...

I know Carol hopes we'll all stick around until she's up and running again.

This thread is so important, Jan. You've really gone the extra mile in keeping things going. Everyone has! And I know it means a 'lot' to Carol.

Chlo e said...

comment before last: sb: I've 'noticed' (regarding cats colors) throughout the years.

Ha, I've also noticed that when I'm typing I drop the end on a lot of words. Either that or leave it out... even change it.

Sometimes reading my comments requires learning a new language. Oh, wait. It's the same when I talk... I try!

Carol said...

I have no broken bones in my wrist it's just a good sprain. It does hurt like hell and I can't use make a fist are use my fingers and thumb to do anything it's a real treat trying to get my pants up and down. I will be using my microphone to write and it makes lots of mistakes. We may need to change the title of this blog to everyone but Carol Southern spice. Lately I'm just an accident waiting to happen. I promise I wasn't being careless. I was leaning over working on a portable bilge pump for the boat and I got a little dizzyso I spun around to sit down the Cement area under my steps and I toppled over to the right and landed with my right wrist hyperextended. I did feel a pop but The xray didn'tsow any fractures. I think it's just a big bruise inside. Unfortunately it's my right hand so it pre-much leaves me from being able to do anything right hand. I kinda wonder if my subconscious is trying to give me an excuse to do nothing. There are no accidents!

Carol said...

So sorry about the puppy it is a very sad story.. I have been pretty unstable on my feet and I guess I'm also unstable on my seat.

I miss that taping recording Dowton Abbey again last night so I'm watching it online today.

Carol said...

Yes thank you all for keeping the spice going..

jan said...

Coreen, I know very little about cats. That info about calicos is totally new for me. I think calicos are such pretty cats. I had a long hair grey cat one time. She was very easy going. She did go outdoors and hunt - which now I feel badly about. Some people hate it that cats kill birds.

Carol, do you remember Ashes, our cat. She was very finicky about what she ate. She only liked the cans of cat food and then she would eat 1/2 the can and would not eat it if it was refrigerated so we wound up throwing out a lot of cat food. She was very healthy. The only vet care she ever needed were her shots. She lived to be 18 years old.

jan said...

Carol, so sorry about your fall and hand sprain. Hope it heals quickly.

Oh Contraire, this blog is and will always be "Carols .... Spice." I did get a chuckle out of your comment though.

jan said...

My sister had an all black cat with long hair. She named him "boo Kitty." He had orange slits for eyes and his face was flat. She was very sick for a year or so when she first got him and he would not leave her side. He would have nothing to do with her husband, so her husband went out and got himself a cat. My sis had to find another home for Boo Kitty when she moved in with her daughter.

Chlo e said...

I have a long hair black cat named Boo too. She's still my baby, under a year old. She in her sister spend a lot of time in the family room with me.

Their mom(extremely feral) was that stray cat that we FINALLY caught and spayed. Now she's happily running around the property, safe and sound and not having babies... along with a lot of her offspring (all neutered and spayed too).

Her babies are the cutest, best cats though. There were just too many and we thought we'd never catch her. Now we've leveled out again

Chlo e said...

BTW, Boo's sister's name is Moo (and looks complete different, short hair gray and other colors). Her mom had so many kittens, we had to make their names easy to remember. :)

Boo is already very chubby; Moo is tiny. They are offered the exact same food.

Love 'em both so much! Love all my animals so much!!

Chlo e said...

Glad to hear your wrist isn't broken, Carol.

Although I remember you guys talking here about how sprains can often hurt more than breaks. Still, I think they probably have a better chance of healing correctly.

Also, maybe it not breaking is a sign that your bones are strengthening.

RebelliousRenee said...

Carol… get better fast, girl… :)

Chloe… I've had many, many cats… and the one thing I've noticed is that each of them has their own personality. I used to raise angora rabbits… even they had their own personality. I'd bet that even birds and snakes do also. I too LOVE animals so much!

Carol said...

Chlor, I agree thay my boned must be syronger. I hsve been taking my calcium and D. Im out of D so I need to get more

Carol said...

I've been having cats most og my lifr also. most of my cats have been stray cats that wandered up

jan said...

Well, we are off on another road trip tomorrow. Going to AR to see our accountant and take him our tax stuff. We will make a short side trip further south to see our three sons. We will be back in ABQ on Sun.

jan said...

Renee, I love eggs benedict. My favorite egg dish. I also love good blueberry pancakes with the blueberries cooked into the 'cakes. yumm.

Coreen said...

Carol, it may be time to send you a bunch of lucky charms...sorry about your latest mishap...

Coreen said...

And another casualty of the winter that won't stop!...

Renee, I know you enjoy your maple syrup, hopefully up your way, the weather won't matter...

Cold snap stymies maple sap in CT

Coreen said...

And in the one of the most important news of the week...

Kit Kat was named the most influential candy bar in the world by Time...what was a surprise was it originated in London in the 1920s...who'd a thought!...
Kit Kat the most influential candy bar

Coreen said...

Here's the original Time article that decided the winner...
13 most influential candy bars of all time

RebelliousRenee said...

Coreen…
the same principles apply to our sap running as anywhere else. The sap usually starts running up here around now… the last week of Feb. But it's way too cold during the day… nothing is happening. Hopefully next week will be a different story.

And my favorite candy bar is #11 on that list… Baby Ruth. Never heard of that chicken dinner one.

Carol said...

Already down my dark chocolate GoldWorks Easter egg candy and got a big box at Sam's

Sorry let's not gold work, it's six Goldbrick Goldbrick chocolate Easter egg it's dark chocolate and pecans it's my favorite candy Easter candy. I found it at Sam's Club and they fuck like a 12 pack or 18 pack.

Cause it was funny I decide to leave what this microphone put on the blog but that's not what I said. You have never read about the sex life of Goldbrick candy. I said he comes this 12 or 16 candy box.


Now we are an x rated blog

Chlo e said...

LOL, Carol. Glad you left it as is.

I went over to Facebook to see if Jack was around, because he hasn't been at TM. Not there either, figure he's vacationing somewhere warm, because he complained about the cold a couple of times.

While I was there, I notice in 2010 that I had linked that Fat Butt article from here to there(way back when). I went to the link, which led to the old article, but the pic was gone there too. Guess they remove them everywhere after a certain amount of time.

Anyway (as usual, making a short story long) I'm thinking about doing a reprint of it here in the near future (the Fat Butt article, that is). I'll go see if that invite you sent me is still in my doubt mail.

jan said...

We are in Amarillo tx for the night. I just got online. Has taken 2 hrs so just want to say hello.

My fav candy bar is Almond Joy. I like to get the little ones in a bag then I get more almonds. I also like Mounds bars - very fond of cocoanut.

Carol said...

Jan I got bitesize almond joys in my refrigerator I keep my chocolate the fridgerator. I often change my favorite candy from time to time I think I have in my refrigerator M&M peanuts some kit katd,digo brick Easter eggs and so much just regular uh uh mounds and maybe some other stuff too

Carol said...

No one mention the DA finally. Anyone wondering when too done will bum off Tomas? His number should be getting close.

Carol said...

That was suppose to read whemnsomeone will bump off Thomas? He is such a sleaze.

RebelliousRenee said...

Jan…
enjoy your family.
I too am really fond of coconut. I love anything made with it. I even buy organic coconut oil and spread it on my toast instead of margarine or butter.

Coreen said...

Good to see everyone likes chocolate...not sure I ever met someone who didn't!...my preference is milk chocolate...don't like dark chocolate at all...

For me, it's kit kat, twix, milky way, 3 musketeers, but try to buy
the 'minis' not full size bars...

Coreen said...

As for the Downton finale, it moved quickly with lots of question marks for the future & ended much better than last season...

Naturally, enjoyed Shirley Mac's
appearance, especially the way she put the "Lord" down, oh come to Newport & I'll line up a bunch of my rich widow friends!...so Martha!!...but would have liked
more interaction with Violet...Who as always has the best lines of them all...

Not sure what to make of Cora's brother Harold...or if he comes back next season, with an English wife...

And there's Edith & her 'plan' to have the local farmer raise her daughter...It's going to be their 'little secret'...Right!!..

As for Mary, boy did her eyes light up when she found out that Charles Blake was one of them...& in line to inherit lots of money...

And any chance Isobel winds up with some romance?...not to mention the ending with Carson & Mrs. Hughes holding hands as the waded into the water....







Coreen said...

Here's a good recap of the Downton Abbey finale from David Hinckley, NY Daily News entertainment critic, he's a much better take on things, than the NYT critics, who never like anything everyone else does...forgot to put it up the other day...
Downton Finale Recap

Coreen said...

One more thing I keep forgetting to mention...you may already know about this Jerry Seinfeld internet series, comedians in cars getting coffee...have watched a couple (not crazy about trying to watch anything on the computer, it is never smooth, it stops/freezes, so it is challenging)something a little different, but maybe only if you were a Seinfeld fan...
Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee

RebelliousRenee said...

Coreen… I like chocolate provided it is used to cover caramel or toffee such as in a Baby Ruth bar… I am what is called a butterscotch person. No hot fudge for me… make it a hot butterscotch sundae please.
I'm not fond of chocolate cake… but oddly I do like ring dings. I don't like chocolate ice cream. Give me a blonde brownie too.

I LOVE white chocolate…. which I understand isn't really chocolate. When I go to that vacation up north like I did a few weeks ago, there is a restaurant up there that is famous for it's white chocolate desserts. I always get their white chocolate bread pudding with caramel sauce. It probably sends my blood sugars zooming… but I only get it once a year.

And I'm with you…. if I am going to have some chocolate… make it milk chocolate.

jan said...

Carol, I like all kinds of candy too. I have recently been hooked on some pudding cups. They are rice pudding cups that are really good. It is not a well known brand. I am not home and don't remember the brand, but they taste home-made and not a lot of calories in a little 1/2 cup serving.

jan said...

Coreen, I watched the Jerry Sinefeld show from link you posted. Sort of funny. I don't watch anything on my computer. I like watching the tv screen.

jan said...

As for Downton Abbey, I think Edith was the most interesting character this season. If she didn't have so much bad luck, she wouldn't have any luck at all. However, she seemed much more attractive and interesting this season than in any past seasons. I liked Violet's interactions with her. Do you all think the problems for Bates will come back to haunt him. It seems that after Mary burned the ticket that was in his pocket that he was in the clear, but who Knows?

I look forward to Season 5.

jan said...

Renee, I too like caramel or butterscotch. I don't like too much chocolate. I prefer candy with a chocolate coating rather than an all choc candy.

jan said...

Coreen, I enjoyed the D.A. recap. As someone else said, it was awfully busy with so many things going on this season, but still enjoyable. I was glad it did not end with a crisis as so many shows do. Thanks for posting the link.

jan said...

Glad to see that Grey's Anatomy and Scandal are back. I like the new series "Mom" It is pretty funny and very risque.

jan said...

Glad to see that Grey's Anatomy and Scandal are back. I like the new series "Mom" It is pretty funny and very risque.

jan said...

Well, need to get on the tax stuff. Just a little to finish and then need to go make some copies.

Coreen said...

Hey guys, for some reason Renee & Jan's comments after mine today are also on my regular email...


Coreen said...

And my comment starting comedian in cars & the last one is also showing up on my emails...

Chlo e said...

Twilight Zone

Chlo e said...

Forgive me, Coreen. But the Twilight Zone is the first thing that entered my mind. :)

Remember a couple of years, or so, ago, Bethy accidentally hit some kind of code over at TM and everyone's post ended up doing weird things (I can't remember exactly what it was, though).

Anyway, have you tried things like logging out of Carol's, then restarting your computer before logging back in?

Carol said...

Well I'm taking a chance using the microphone today. I had a bone scan scheduled today because x-rays don't show my fractures. I asked the technician to let me look at the little pic of the total skeleton. With my limited expertise in looking at bone scan it appears I do have two fractures of our fractures of two ribs on my left side just causing most of my pain. It also appears I have a fracture of that right wrist we area where I have the pain. I'm not sure how long it will be before my.doc gets the results because it's Friday and tomorrow is Saturdat. I did have quite a few areas on my skeleton that glowed.. It's no wonder why I hurt so bad all over.

Carol said...

My microphone look like Kurt even when I'm not, that was supposed to read curse . I quess like the rest of us my microphone can be in a feisty mode. My microphone is picking up Cesar Malan on the dog whisperer. I erased what he was talking about.

Carol said...

The real challenge to try to get him out of bed already chairs two broken ribs on my left lower anterior Chad and a broken wrist on my right arm. . Show my roomie that since the officer with a gun like they do animals they had to mess up this deal maybe she could shoot me. Like They do animals that are in too much misery

RebelliousRenee said...

Carol…
shoot you?… naaaah….

I like the suggestion that you cloak yourself in bubble wrap much better… :)

Coreen said...

Carol, have to say, I'm with Renee...

Really hope you start seeing some relief soon...

Carol said...

My doc send me a copy of the bone scan I have six broken ribs, 2 anterior left 3, one on the anterior right no wondering feel like I've been run over. Also a right wrist fracture.

jan said...

Carol, I too like the bubble wrap idea. When I had the knee and leg pain last june and july I thought it might never end. To have that kind of never ending pain makes you feel like life is not worth living. But you have to use what pain relief you can get where you can get it.

We are here to listen to your pain. So share it with us.

jan said...

As we learned in nursing school, bone pain can be the worst.

jan said...

We had a long drive home yesterday. We were in car for 15 hours. We drove from way down in south Arkansas to Tulsa to pick up my son and then on to Albuq. last night. Fortunately my son and John shared the driving. They closed some highways in Tulsa last night because of freezing rain. We had intended to stay until today and drive home today or tomorrow but changed our plans to try and miss the bad weather. Sure glad we did or we may have been there several days. We missed seeing some family, but will see them another time.

Carol said...

I'm having some serious pain in my chest and my doctors pretty generous with the pain medicine so no-fault there just doesn't work.

Biotic feel good today my new roommate clean the house up and even went out and cleaned out my truck my truck hasn't been that clean in years. She is definitely a keeper.

Chlo e said...

... we are so much alike, Carol. My car hasn't been clean in years either. I always need a keeper. Feel like my mind is scrambled half the time.

Chlo e said...

Sorry about the mistaken text messages. I'll blame it on the scrambled brain.

Get better!

Coreen said...

The Oscars...watched it off & on, my own observations...

some really beautiful gowns...glamour was out on the red carpet & they looked fantastic...don't think there was a really bad gown in the bunch...

Darlene Love...she simply rocked it when she went up with the producers of '20 feet from stardom', documentary winner & belted out an acapella thank you tribute to the 'backup singers' subject of the film!..

Coreen said...

But, it reminded me of how old I am...I have no idea who the majority of the actors are & those
I do know all looked well old...even those with botox help!...another reason not to go to class reunions...just think about it...

Kim Novak one of the most beautiful actresses ever, not sure whether she has medical issues, but not a good appearance, thankfully Matthew Mcconaughey was there to help her out...

And he gave a terrific acceptance speech for best actor...an all around good guy...& I think he comes from LA Carol...

jan said...

Coreen, I too thought the speech by Matthew McConeahy (cannot spell his name) was beautiful. I think he said something about Bossier City LA. I definitely want to see Dallas Buyers Club and 12 years a slave. So many movies I have missed this year. I want to see them all. We did see Gravity and it won a bunch of awards.

jan said...

I think Gravity and Blue Jasmine are only movies we have seen that were up for awards. I did not like Blue Jasmine.

Coreen said...

Jan, have to admit can't remember the last time I went to a movie, only remember it was so very loud I had to cover my ears for most of the movie...hated it...& for the most part movies are too long, maybe it's my short attention span...

Coreen said...

And thanks to the magic of this google/youtube world, here is Darlene Love's Oscar acapella acceptance...

Darlene Love sings acceptance speech

jan said...

Coreen, I did see Darlene Love's musical acceptance speech. What a voice and accapela too. I did not remember her from years ago. You were much more in touch with the music scene then.

jan said...

We don't go to movies often. I usually rent most of movies we see.

RebelliousRenee said...

We caught about an hour of the Oscars after watching a hockey game (our team won). As I said on TrailMix…. too many commercials…. and IMO, what we saw was boring. We did not stay up to see best picture because we both expected the usual Hollywood making a political statement so it would mean 12 Years A Slave would win…. we were correct. Not to say it didn't deserve it… don't know, haven't seen it.

The only movie we saw with a nomination was Blue Jasmine…. both Rick and I loved it. We were glad to find out that Cate Blanchett won best actress. We thought her performance was great… and she does have our last name, except we spell our's slightly different.

We see most movies on tv. We do have all the HBOs and Showtimes and such… so we do get to see them in their entirety without commercials.

Carol said...

Darn I missed thr oscars. My nrphrw eas in with his fsmily visiting st the camp. Im eaiting fot anotjet wrosy xray. No new injuries. thank God

Carol said...

I jist hD the xrsy snd it looks normal. Dont know why it glowed over the pain on the bone scsn.

Chlo e said...

Hope that means you don't have any broken bones, Carol. Maybe they are strengthening after all. (?)

... although, either way, there's still the pain to deal with.

RebelliousRenee said...

I hate to admit it…. but I'm sick and tired of all this cold weather. Snow doesn't bother me…. but this arctic cold has lasted waaay too long. The temps are finally going to start moderating at the end of the week… thank god!

jan said...

Renee, hope your severe cold weather is over soon. I dislike the extreme cold or hot weather.

Carol, so glad it looks like you may not have broken bones.

jan said...

I just reconnected with a high school friend. She was a year ahead of me in HS. Have not had contact with her since she graduated. We got together through FB and mutual friends. We sang together a lot in HS.

jan said...

Must get ready for work. This is one of those days I would like to stay home.

Carol said...

My doc referred me to an ortho for my wrist because she feels that a positive bone scan is more sensitive than a neg x ray. I agree when it come to ribs became I rip them at the seams which you can't identify on an X-ray. I really don't think my wrist is broken even though it hurts. I knew the ribs were plot at the seams and that doesn't show up on the X-ray. I needed sympathy. Didn't want everyone to think I was just being whinny. I we'll know the pain of a broken rib. I would say I'm an expert at identifying it

Carol said...

Nasty weather here today it's been sleeting and water on the trees is frozen.

jan said...

Carol, yes - when we have pain, sometimes we just want sympathy, not analysis.

Cannot believe you are having sleeting there.

Chlo e said...

Renee,
I with you regarding this long, never ending winter. It's taking it's toll. I don't remember anything like it... either that, or it just bothers me more than it has in the past.

The 'only' benefit I've seen (a small consolation) is that the Crape Myrtles are unbelievably beautiful this year. I've never seen more full blooms and the tree's are huge. Flowering tree's and plants seem to really enjoy the extra cold winters (ha, to each it's own).

Well, hopefully we're toward the end, and soon I'll be complaining about how hot it is... on second thought, no way. I'll just crank up the AC and count my blessings once summer gets here. I've really had it with the cold and am tired of wearing pounds of clothes around on my back.

Enough already!


Coreen said...

Heard about the NJ teen suing her parents for support & to pay her college tuition, though she moved out of their home because of conflict about following the family's rules...

Yesterday the judge ruled against her request for support & set a hearing next month to determine whether the parents have to pay the college tuition...

Tell me, does anyone side with the teenager in this case?...
NJ teen sues parents for support

Coreen said...

Oh & winter...well I was finished with it once Christmas was over!...

the bitter cold together with the snowcover that won't melt make it all around most unpleasant...

jan said...

I believe in education but do not believe a parent is responsible for a child's college education.

Coreen said...

And in keeping with the winter that won't go away...did you see these stunning pics of a frozen
Niagara Falls...

Pretty sure the lights on the falls are looking from the Canadian side toward U.S. I was there years ago, even took a ride on the maid of the mist & got wet & remember that it was a more dramatic scene looking from the Canadian side & how loud the falls sounded...

The only other 'wonder of the world' I've seen is the Grand Canyon, which actually left me
speechless (for a minute)...again it was awhile ago when you could drive into the park (the south rim, we came from
phoenix through flagstaff)...
Frozen Niagara Falls



RebelliousRenee said...

Chloe… as much as I don't like this cold, I don't like air conditioning even more. We do have one in our bedroom and I have one in my studio. But we wait until we can't stand it to turn them on. I do know that you and Carol would die without it though. Those trees sound lovely!

Coreen…. I'm with Jan… I too don't believe parents are responsible for paying for a child's college education.

Chlo e said...

Ha, Renee. If you lived in Houston or Louisiaa, you'd change your mind. I guarantee you that Air Conditioning would become your best fried!

It's all about necessity!

(on the bright side, one benefit is that conditioned air is very clean)

Chlo e said...

fried = friend

Have a good day, everyone!

PS I guess people can sue someone for anything they want to sue for. IMO, it's a pretty sad day when your own kids come back and sue you, but not particularly surprising. I'm very aware of that group of people that feel entitled... the one's that could just as easily go out and get what they want through their own efforts.

But, to each his own.

Chlo e said...

You've brought up some good questions, Coreen.

Chlo e said...

BTW, I'm aware of the ones who want something for nothing, first-hand (unfortunately).

(my n is sticking... I keep trying to go back to it)

Chlo e said...

Carol,

Hope you got your Amazon streaming working. Don't give up!

Also, like everything else, remember that pain will subside eventually.

Meanwhile hang in there and don't ever lose hope. My favorite reassurance is still: This too shall pass.

That one will get you through almost anything.

jan said...

Gorgeous pic of Niagara Falls. A place on my bucket list. So many places in the USA that I want to experience.

jan said...

I have paid for 2 college educations for my kids and one for myself. One son did not want to go to college and he has done very well without it. He is the one who is managing the OK property. In the near future I am turning it over to all 3 of my sons. He is the only one interested in running it. He will have to work out the details with his brothers.

jan said...

Most financial planners discourage parents from paying for children's college education unless they are "well fixed" to do that as parents need to plan for their own retirement.

Chlo e said...

It's important to pay for your children's college education, if that's what they want, and you can afford it.

I hope everyone knows I was only commenting on the fact that the daughter was suing her parents. It just seems like a sorta betrayal to me, when you take your own parents (or children) to court.

Coreen said...

I have no issue with parents paying for their children's education, if they can afford it...I do not believe that it is
a legal obligation for parents to
pay for college tuition...

I am not comfortable with parents who agree to co-sign or take out student loans...

But the story about the teen who
left her family's home because she didn't want to live by the parents rules (one involving their
unhappiness with her choice of a boyfriend) was the fact that she was suing the parents to support her even though she didn't want
to live with them...Her lawsuit is being funded by her friend's father who is an attorney, which
raises some alarm bells...

jan said...

Agree with both of you on parent's paying for child's college education.

jan said...

I do think it should be an individual decision for the family. I would leave out "shoulds" as it depends a lot on the family. My oldest son really wanted a college education and he worked and saved money to help with expenses. We were very happy to help him with tuition, books etc because of his own contributions. I would not be willing to pay for a college education if my child simply wanted a free ride in college and did not make decent grades.

Chlo e said...

Thanks, guys, for elaborating.

The main difficulty in commenting on a blog is that its is undeniably somewhat one dimensional and often feels out of context, compared to the complexity of all the thoughts that go in the the limited amount of sentences that we can fit on here.

OK, lol... that was a lot of words to maybe not say much, but hopefully you get my gist. And I hope that you all know that thing are a lot more complicated than what I may appear to think they are by what little I say here.

COMMUNICATION IS SO HARD!!
Have a great day!

Chlo e said...

... that should have been, 'I know things' are a lot more complicated.

And I hope I don't offend anyone here by appearing to over simplify the complicated.

jan said...

Where did every one go?

jan said...

Tomorrow is Friday. Yippee!

jan said...

John and I just watched the movie "Bridesmaids" on TV. Such a funny movie. I love the cast.

RebelliousRenee said...

Jan…
I saw Bridesmaid in the theater with a group of girlfriends… we laughed out guts out.

Rick and I are going to the city today to see our financial advisor. Then he's taking me out to lunch at this really great restaurant…. my mouth is already watering in anticipation.

jan said...

Renee, sounds like fun.

jan said...

John dropped his phone a week ago and it has all these cracks now in the front. Bad news - he did not buy insurance and another phone costs about $700. and our 2 year contract does not end for about 9 months. Good news - it works just fine. We are thinking of changing carriers. We use Verizon. I think I want an iphone next time.

jan said...

Last week I connected with a HS friend on fb. I sent her a friend message about 3 years ago and she just answered yesterday. We have been e-mailing. She did not friend me on fb but did send me an e-mail over fb. Interesting! Does not matter. Seems we have so much in common. She and I knew each other's mothers and sisters and I knew her aunt. She too has lived out of the country. She quilts and refinishes furniture, has been married 3 times (I have been married 4 times). I used to not tell people that b/c people look at you like there is something wrong with you. Now, I just don't care what people think. Oh yes, in HS we sang together in chorus and at community events.

I don't make too many new friends any longer. It is so nice to rediscover old friends (like Carol) and talk about old memories.

jan said...

Carol, Coreen and Chloe, where are you?

Carol, I hope your pain is lessened.

jan said...

Renee, hang onto those girlfriends. Moving as much as I have, I have lost touch with so many of my girlfriends. Girlfriends are so important.

Chlo e said...

Good for you, Jan!... for not caring what people think.

When you tell me you've been married 4 times, it just tells me that you are good at cultivating relationships, and brave enough to get out of one when it isn't working.

From my view point, it seems that you lead a very thoughtful and creative life that has led to a very comfortable place.

Chlo e said...

Tell John that screen can be replaced, Jan... if you can find a guy who does that on the side for cheap. However, your idea of changing carriers should get you a good price cut on the next.

I'd like to put in a good word for the Iphone. It's the best, easiest to operate phone I've ever had. It'll hold your music too, if you care to use it that way. It does almost everything an IPad does, and since you use an Apple computer, it should probably be easy to learn.

Chlo e said...

BTW, they sell a heavy duty cover for the IPhone at Walmart that has a plastic cover that protects the screen, and you can type right through it. This cover is so heavy duty (yet nice to handle) that you can throw the phone off the side of building and it stays intact.

I have a purple one and hubby has a black one. ;0

Chlo e said...

.... one last thing, if you're in a hurry, you can buy out of that contract a fairly reasonable low price, usually. There are times it's worth it.

Or, if you resign a new contract, they'll probably give him a new phone at the promotional rate (if you like Verizon). We have Sprint for our cells, and ATT for IPad connections. I like both, but out here Sprint works better for Cells. ATT drops lots of calls.

Chlo e said...

We need to hear from you, Carol.

Say something.

jan said...

Chloe, thank you for those very kind words about my multiple marriages. The world has changed so and so have our ideas/thoughts on many issues. In my day, if a woman had sex with a man she was a slut/whore if she was not engaged or married to him. Now, most young people have a different set of values. I always liked what Margaret Mead once said. She was married 3 times. She said believed in serial monogamy. She said each of her marriages or husbands fit what was going on in her life at the time. Of course, we can find the philosophy or person who fits what our lifestyle has been or is. Fortunately, I am not and have never been Catholic. I am sure I would have been kicked out of the Catholic church. The Episcopal church is ok with it (all my marriages/divorces, but we had to go through 6 weeks of counseling with the priest that married us and 6 months of therapy with a selected therapist to be sure we were ready for this marriage.

jan said...

Chloe, I will share all this great info with John and think about this as we plan for new phones. I definitely want an i phone next time.

Carol said...

chloe,you've been invited toauhor t blog posts buyour name is not listed as a contributor did you ever answer the ?

Chlo e said...

Love you, Carol.
I'll check my email in the morning. I need sleep right now.

Chlo e said...

Good Morning.

Carol,
I lost that contribute email somehow. If you want to resend it, I'll send it right back this time.

Then I'll go get the article Solar asked us to bring over from TM, if you do.

Carol said...

Chloe that invitation to post was sent along time ago you get to look in your old mail

Carol said...

Chloe it took a long time first solar's name to show up on the contribute list he took a long time to accept his invitation also

Chlo e said...

Sorry, Carol, but this is what happens to my old email: This tape will self-destruct in 5 seconds (uh, days :)

Can you resend it when you get a chance?

Chlo e said...

Mission Impossible!

I used to really love that series back in the old days!

Carol said...

I sent you another invite Chloe

Carol

Coreen said...

Now that jogged the memory..a good lead in for a trip down memory lane...

The HBO show 'true detective' last epi is tomorrow (matthew Mcconaughey & Woody Harrelson) & in keeping here's a list of some of the best tv detectives ever...(don't agree with the ranking, honestly never heard of the #1 Sherlock holmes) but there are a lot of shows that I remember well, would have to think about my top 10 favorite detective...

But Carol, you probably already know who would be my top pick...
best TV detectives

Coreen said...

Ok let's try that link again...
best TV detectives

Coreen said...

And here's another list of the top tv detectives through British
eyes...
Best TV detectives & sleuths

Carol said...

Green your favorite TV detectors would be the Hawaii 5-0 boys

Carol said...

Green your favorite TV detectors would be the Hawaii 5-0 boys

Carol said...

Cyree arena my microphone put green instead of chorine to see if it happens again

My an iPad is gone bonkers

Carol said...

I went to see the ortho yesterday and they put a cast on my right Rick arm wrist hand and they bound the areas it's painful to type I need to cut this damn castoff and I took the shower and put it in a bag in the back buildup Woodwaters was 92 tided soaking wet it's like a Chinese torture device

Carol said...

Sorry this microphone has gone nuts.

jan said...

Coreen, loved Hill Street Blues

jan said...

Also liked Peter Falk in Colombo. We still watch Monk reruns. Monk not on the list of best detectives. Also liked Angela Lansbury in Murder she Wrote.

Chlo e said...

Hawaii 5-0 was another of my favorites.

Those speakers take time to get used to our speech, Carol. Some things, it seems, they never get right, though. Experiment talking slower, faster, things like that.

Better yet, don't worry about it. I, for one, had no problem understanding what any typos were. Anyone that's used the speakers understands the difficulties. Just keep commenting and let us worry about things on the receiving end.

It's just really good to hear from you and I hope you keep it up. Things aren't the same without your take on them.

Sorry that you're continuing to suffer. If that cast bothers you enough, make an appointment and tell your Ortho to figure something else out. What's important is what you're comfortable. His job is to make sure that happens.

Chlo e said...

Jan, We used to always watch all the Colombo's too. It's funny, but all those old series don't seem all that long ago.

The comedies back then were hilarious. Our favorites were Sanford and Son; All in the Family; and before that, Mash.

I never want to go back and re-watch things much though. Prefer the present.

jan said...

Chloe, me too. John loves all the reruns and I am usually up and down when tv is on so I just watch what he is watching.

Carol, I am with Chloe and want you to just keep writing to us. It doesn't matter how the words look. Hope you can get this wrist thing figured out and get some pain relief.

jan said...

Chloe, our all time favorite show was Northern Exposure. Was so disappointed when found out they shot it in Washington and not Alaska. We taped many of those shows on old tapes and still have them. I still have a little TV that I can watch those tapes on. Don't do it, but I can. ha ha. We also liked Seinfeld. We still get some reruns of Seinfeld.

jan said...

John loves Sanford and Son. Not my cup of tea.

jan said...

Our youngest granddaughter (12 y/o) is in a drill team in her school. We went to see her drill team perform in a competition this morning. Lots of fun. Her team won first place.

Chlo e said...

I don't know how I left out Seinfeld, Jan. I've probably left out many others I enjoyed too.

Way, way, way back, I liked the Mash series a lot.

Congrats to grand daughter. She's growing up so fast, and will be grown before you know it.

Carol, I'm all caught up on House of Cards and anxiously waiting for more. What a sleaze Kevin Space plays in it... I could strangle him.

Chlo e said...

... now I'm going back to finish Homeland, even though I know the ending (thanks to a spoiler online). Love the star of it... same one that was on Life, Carol.

I finally got a Zen tape to listen to in the car, which was because of the main character on life... Charlie (Damian Lewis). He's so funny.

Chlo e said...

Damian Lewis is English, Carol. We seem to be seeing a lot of English and Australian actors in our movies and series, although you'd never know it by their practiced American accents.

Carol said...

My keyboardbkeepsbdisappearijg from my iPad

You havebanynidea about what is causing that?

Chloe, you are now listed as a contributor.

Carol said...

It's now back.

Carol said...

Try putting up a post Chloe.

Chlo e said...

New thread

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